6 - Carles Alena

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Granted, he's closer to the first team ever, so it's no surprise to see people starting to turn against him.

Which everyone should do to some extent, it is one thing to be play in the academy/reserve team and playing in 1st team football. In the 1st people will get excited about the flashes you show here and there, In 1st team football your mistakes,consistency will be judged too. It is more like when someone graduate and face the reality of the job market. but on even harder and bigger level.
 

God Serena

New member
No, even Navid here I think said he need to improve his close control in tight spaces.

I don't think it's going to be that big of an issue though. Something he definitely can improve if he works hard enough and puts his focus on it.

Needing to improve close control in tight spaces is not the same as being sloppy. Sloppy players are like Gomes or Suarez, who often lose the ball because of poor passing, decision making, dribbling, shooting etc, none of which describe Alena.

Who the fuck are turning against him again?

Judging by your need to drop an F bomb I'm pretty sure you know damn well I'm talking specifically about you. Saying Alena is sloppy is a bullshit comment on the level of BBZ and Neymar.

Which everyone should do to some extent, it is one thing to be play in the academy/reserve team and playing in 1st team football. In the 1st people will get excited about the flashes you show here and there, In 1st team football your mistakes,consistency will be judged too. It is more like when someone graduate and face the reality of the job market. but on even harder and bigger level.

To some extent being the key phrase here. Going from "He's great and has huge potential" to belittling him to some Gumbau level midfielder who's sloppy in possession and is just another "Could of/should of" is a complete 180. Granted I don't know what this particular individual's opinion of Alena was prior to this summer but I wouldn't be surprised if we see all the usual anti Masia suspects join him on this sudden opinion flip that occurs either before Alena has even played pre-season with us, or after he's had his first subpar performance.
 
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tacticvarium

New member
For Aleñá, I believe its more of a matter of consistency than his talents. He showed potentials that he could reach magician type of players (like Iniesta and David Silva in his prime) but he is not consistent which could be overcome if he has the right mentality and attitude. It's not like he has to create something he doesn't have in him but he has to more improve it.
Xavi was an unusual case like Messi imo. He was already very calm on the ball since the debut age but Iniesta was not a finished product as a magician when he was early 20s.
 

Trickykid

Active member
Needing to improve close control in tight spaces is not the same as being sloppy. Sloppy players are like Gomes or Suarez, who often lose the ball because of poor passing, decision making, dribbling, shooting etc, none of which describe Alena.



Judging by your need to drop an F bomb I'm pretty sure you know damn well I'm talking specifically about you. Saying Alena is sloppy is a bullshit comment on the level of BBZ and Neymar.



To some extent being the key phrase here. Going from "He's great and has huge potential" to belittling him to some Gumbau level midfielder who's sloppy in possession and is just another "Could of/should of" is a complete 180. Granted I don't know what this particular individual's opinion of Alena was prior to this summer but I wouldn't be surprised if we see all the usual anti Masia suspects join him on this sudden opinion flip that occurs either before Alena has even played pre-season with us, or after he's had his first subpar performance.

Right, I'm going to try to be as civil and mature as I possible can here, and guide you slooowly through my original post. Take my hand, pal, and let me lead you...

I don't have as high hopes for him tbh. Clearly he's super talented, but he also seems way too wasteful and sloppy in possession for him to ever be an integral cog in our midfield.

Young of course with plenty time and room for improvement, so here's hoping. I won't be surprised, though, if he ends up another could've/should've been from La Masia.

Right, let's get started.
First of all, let's take a look at the opening sentence, with the keyword as being our main focus. I wrote as because it was directed to the poster just above me, who expects the player in question to bench just about every single midfielder we currently have - obviously with a few select omissions - within a fairly short time. That was what prompted my post that entangled your poor panties so direly. The kid needs time, and I don't thing he's ready to bench anyone in the near future, but he will hopefully get there in due time.

Phew, so far so good...

Alright, get a firm grip on your hat and other lose belongings, because this is where it gets real wild and crazy!

Clearly he's super talented...
Whoa, wait a minute! Did I just claim he's super talented? Why, yes I believe I did. So, this confuses me, why the everliving fuck would you suddenly rant about me comparing him to the likes of Gumbau who clear as day wasn't God damn super talented?! Perhaps a slight misapprehension on your side, trying to blow things way, way out of proportion?

Lets carry on... Oh, and so so sorry for that f-bomb, that was truly naughty.

...but he also seems way too wasteful and sloppy in possession for him to ever be an integral cog in our midfield.

This is what really set you off, right? Well, buddy, young players tend to have shortcomings, and this, I believe, is a fairly obvious shortcoming of Alena. You don't see it the same way? No problem, I guess we see players differently. Does is mean that I don't rate the kid one bit and roots for him to flop (just like you have a nasty habit of doing with a good portion of our players who doesn't look too hot)? No, not at all. It actually leads us rather gracefully, if I may say so, to the next quote from my post:

Young of course with plenty time and room for improvement, so here's hoping.

Young players tend to develop and eventually get better by ironing out their mistakes and inherent weaknesses, and some don't - players like Deulofeu and Samper come to mind. I really hope Alena doesn't end up like those two and actually manages to build upon his game and irons out those flaws, that I believe he has. It is dead certain that he will? No, I'm afraid not. A healthy skepticism when it comes to our youngsters is a good thing, I believe, and it doesn't necessarily equate to black and white hate or love, that you are so fond of dabbling in.

Right, last quote that you seem to have singled out in your rant:

I won't be surprised, though, if he ends up another could've/should've been from La Masia.

...just like every La Masia talent, really.
It's not as bad as you will have us believe, and it no agenda to belittle (what the fuck, pal :lol:) our talents. It's just a healthy dose of realism and pragmatism that a long, long line of talents has thought us throughout the history of the club and La Masia.


Right, here's the tl;dr version (which coincidentally reminds me a fair bunch of my original post:

I rate the kid a lot, but think he has some shortcomings that he can hopefully work out if he's to become an important Barça player.

Hopefully this will help you, and if not, feel free to leave a comment.
 

tacticvarium

New member
Aleñá will get playing time both at Barcelona B and the first team next season. Valverde has given his approval to this plan. [md]
 

tacticvarium

New member
I think so too. There are too many midfielders in the first team right now but then it would not be any different from Lucho if Valverde only play him for 2-3 CdR games. I hope he somehow finds some more minutes for Aleñá instead of playing shitty players like Gomes.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Impressive performance by him. If he continues like this, he might push out some current 1st team midfielders.
 

El Barcelona

Well-known member
What a nice game, hope he keeps it up and that Valverde give him a chance but we need to sell asap some midfielders..
 

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