6 - Gavi
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JamDav1982
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He did play well in first half... and probably worst midfielder on the park in the 2nd.
But lets ignore the 2nd half and claim he was 'class'.
But lets ignore the 2nd half and claim he was 'class'.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
2nd Half...
Made the least passes of any midfielder on the park other than Fermin who was subbed off... at 14... Gundo in comparison made 40. Barca totally lost control of middle of park and Gavi one of major reasons with Romeu.
Gave away the ball more than any other midfielder.
Was following ball too often and leaving space... example for both Real Madrid goals. First one in particular he should never be vacating area and leaving players on edge of area to follow ball into box.
But let the FDJ 'hater' be desperate for Gavi to have been 'class' and 'best mid on park'.
Suits them.
Made the least passes of any midfielder on the park other than Fermin who was subbed off... at 14... Gundo in comparison made 40. Barca totally lost control of middle of park and Gavi one of major reasons with Romeu.
Gave away the ball more than any other midfielder.
Was following ball too often and leaving space... example for both Real Madrid goals. First one in particular he should never be vacating area and leaving players on edge of area to follow ball into box.
But let the FDJ 'hater' be desperate for Gavi to have been 'class' and 'best mid on park'.
Suits them.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Fake news... FDJ is levels above and Pedri is top class and next in line as top mid... which was said when he was 19/20 etc.
Keep bringing up FDJ it really is very relevant and he needs to be brought up as much as possible.
No FDJ fanboy is 'scared' of Gavi.
FDJ 'fanboys' are about as scared of Gavi as Real Madrid fans are.
Wait for Gavi top class games before making out he was 'class and best mid on park' v Real.
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I'm no Gavi hater. Just don't think he's near the level made out. He could have a very good future as a top player if his skills are honed and areas he's poor in are improved, just like any youngster... Until that happens he's only as good as what he is, he's an ok la liga level player, which is no insult at his age.
People projecting what they think the future version of Gavi will be on the current version. Not only is that unfair on him (who are the haters now?), it's idiotic.
People projecting what they think the future version of Gavi will be on the current version. Not only is that unfair on him (who are the haters now?), it's idiotic.
„Ok La Liga level player“ xD but not a hater 
He’s playing very well this season and carries most of the workload due to Pedri and even Frenkie being out for months this season and last.
We played very well for 60 mins and then ran into the dilemma to either play on with tired legs or bring on Romeu while Madrid subbed Cama and Modric. But it’s on Xavi and Gavi
He’s playing very well this season and carries most of the workload due to Pedri and even Frenkie being out for months this season and last.
We played very well for 60 mins and then ran into the dilemma to either play on with tired legs or bring on Romeu while Madrid subbed Cama and Modric. But it’s on Xavi and Gavi
ajnotkeith
Senior Member
He's more top4 level Laliga player, if not Barcelona level yet.
His main strength is his physical conditioning, that is, he can play repeated games with a very high intensity and not be injured/not drop off too much. He presses very intensely and has an extremely good engine, despite not showing so much on the ball these days.
So you can always rely on him for a 6/10, or most of the time anyway, and know that you won't have to change him out too much for fatigue or injuries.
He's a useful player for Barcelona but probably shouldn't be a starter at this moment.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
He isnt playing 'very well' he has been decent/good but a drop off from Pedri/FDJ clearly.
Medicore games get made out to be top class.. poor games get ignored.
Gundo has been better and was better v Real.
Gavi was poor in that second half before Romeu came on. He was barely getting on ball or doing anything with it. That is part of the reason Xavi tried to change it... but Romeu was even worse and Gavi did nothing at all when moved and Tchou had even more joy.
Gavi has played well in spells then vanished in same games and had games struggles to get on ball and influence it nearly enough.
His headless chicken act in chasing ball for two Real goals is typical of how his positioning is and he will struggle to play deeper unless can improve on his positioning when Barca are on and off the ball.
Medicore games get made out to be top class.. poor games get ignored.
Gundo has been better and was better v Real.
Gavi was poor in that second half before Romeu came on. He was barely getting on ball or doing anything with it. That is part of the reason Xavi tried to change it... but Romeu was even worse and Gavi did nothing at all when moved and Tchou had even more joy.
Gavi has played well in spells then vanished in same games and had games struggles to get on ball and influence it nearly enough.
His headless chicken act in chasing ball for two Real goals is typical of how his positioning is and he will struggle to play deeper unless can improve on his positioning when Barca are on and off the ball.
jamrock
Senior Member
Lol he is a starter, will remain a starter and should 100% be a starter.
He's very very good to excellent this season whenever he plays in actual midfield, not every midfielder will put together 80 passes were game, that's not his game.
He was the best or 2nd best player on the park for 60 minutes in the biggest league game in the entire world, after the 60 minute park, it's when he was moved from the CM poAasition.
I always laugh when De Jong fans says all he does is run around it's like they were blind to de jong for the first couple of years at Barcelona.
He's very very good to excellent this season whenever he plays in actual midfield, not every midfielder will put together 80 passes were game, that's not his game.
He was the best or 2nd best player on the park for 60 minutes in the biggest league game in the entire world, after the 60 minute park, it's when he was moved from the CM poAasition.
I always laugh when De Jong fans says all he does is run around it's like they were blind to de jong for the first couple of years at Barcelona.
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JamDav1982
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No he wasn’t. Gundo was better and Gavi was not even close to best player on park at start of second half. Was struggling to have an impact and least impactful of about any mid from moment 2nd half kicked off. It is one of the reasons Xavi tried to change the midfield.
Some over rate anything Gavi does.
Hasn’t been even close to ‘good to excellent’ this season.
FDJ was best player in team after Messi in his 2nd season and levels above Gavi currently.
He put in performances that season Gavi hasn’t even come close to.
Keep compaRing him to FDJ though. It is very relevant.
Gavi was poor in second half v Real after good first half. Probably worst mid on park if not for Romeu in that half.
Some over rate anything Gavi does.
Hasn’t been even close to ‘good to excellent’ this season.
FDJ was best player in team after Messi in his 2nd season and levels above Gavi currently.
He put in performances that season Gavi hasn’t even come close to.
Keep compaRing him to FDJ though. It is very relevant.
Gavi was poor in second half v Real after good first half. Probably worst mid on park if not for Romeu in that half.
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Is being an ok level la liga player an insult? He's 19, that's a very good level to be at his age. And over the season if you average out how he plays that's the level he's been at. But it's all or nothing with you lot. Either have to blow smoke up his arse or you're a hater.„Ok La Liga level player“ xD but not a hater
He’s playing very well this season and carries most of the workload due to Pedri and even Frenkie being out for months this season and last.
We played very well for 60 mins and then ran into the dilemma to either play on with tired legs or bring on Romeu while Madrid subbed Cama and Modric. But it’s on Xavi and Gavi
JamDav1982
Senior Member
‘Tired legs’…
The one who looked the most off it in 2nd half was Gavi… he the one that had the tired legs?
Poor excuse.. Romeu/Lewa had worse ‘legs’ than players they replaced and Raphinha looked same compared to Cancelo.
The one who looked the most off it in 2nd half was Gavi… he the one that had the tired legs?
Poor excuse.. Romeu/Lewa had worse ‘legs’ than players they replaced and Raphinha looked same compared to Cancelo.
Top 4 bench level I'd agree with or regular mid table starting level (ok level). No shame in that. Agree his intensity and fight is great although needs to learn a bit more how to use that at the right time to not allow space to open for opponents. Better tactical setup might mean other mids plug gaps as he goes hunting though so not necessarily all on him.
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