9 - Luis Suárez - v1

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Tiny Kim

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First, I like Alexis and wasn't happy at the time we sell him but I understand why we did that. That said, I think Suarez is a better player and fits this system better than Alexis would. But I don't think it's fair to compare his goals to Alexis. Suarez is a CF and Alexis is a RW so it's understandable that Suarez score more. If anything we should compare Suarez's goals to Messi's when Alexis was here. But this doesn't make sense because we don't play the same system now and because well, Messi is Messi. You can't really compare anyone to him. :)

Maybe we can't compare Suarez and Sanchez on goals scored. But we certainly can do so in assists, and Suarez has him beat in that department hands down, and also in chances created. And yes, Suarez is a major upgrade on Sanchez, and there's no two ways about it.
 

Barcaman

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Sanchez was a model professional for Barca and also wasn't selfish.
He was very frustrating at times and we probably shouldn't have signed him though.
 

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FinBarcelonafan

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I don't believe anyone here actually believes getting Suarez and offloading Sanchez was a bad move.

Anyone?

I like Sanchez a lot and I wish we could have kept him, but Suarez has been big upgrade over him. Sanchez seems to strive being the man instead of being the buy behind Messi(He was still very good with Barcelona in his last season). This move worked out for both sides. I'm happy and I'm pretty sure Sanchez is happy as well.
 

Science Kid

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Sanchez was a very unnecessary signing, certainly not a position we needed much of an upgrade seeing as how Pedro was coming from his best season to date.

The same goes for Fabregas and we paid for those two signings by trying to fit them in any way possible even when it was obvious it didn't really work and it's certainly not a coincidence we won the CL just before they came and won it again as soon as they left.
 

Messi983

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Maybe we can't compare Suarez and Sanchez on goals scored. But we certainly can do so in assists, and Suarez has him beat in that department hands down, and also in chances created. And yes, Suarez is a major upgrade on Sanchez, and there's no two ways about it.

As I said we play different system now. In Alexis's time here midfielders (Xaviesta) were more involved in creating goal scoring chances. Lucho has shifted the focus (and strength) of his team from midfield to attack and now 80-90% of our chances are made and executed by MSN so it's not surprising Suarez has more assists. Also keep in mind that Alexis was often used in rotation with Pedro.

And I don't argue that Suarez is a better player and upgrade to Sanchez. He clearly is. I'm just saying that Alexis was a very good player for us and good fit for the system we played before. I don't think he would be as good for Lucho's system though.

Sanchez was a model professional for Barca and also wasn't selfish.
He was very frustrating at times and we probably shouldn't have signed him though.

Why not? Who else should we sign in 2011? I remember Giuseppe Rossi was the other main option (maybe there was someone else that I forgot as well). While I like the Italian he's very injury prone so I think we made a right decision to buy Alexis at that time. And in 2014 we made even better one replacing him with Suarez.

I don't believe anyone here actually believes getting Suarez and offloading Sanchez was a bad move.

Anyone?

I don't think anyone here really believe that.
 

jj_101

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Why not? Who else should we sign in 2011? I remember Giuseppe Rossi was the other main option (maybe there was someone else that I forgot as well). While I like the Italian he's very injury prone so I think we made a right decision to buy Alexis at that time. And in 2014 we made even better one replacing him with Suarez.

We could have signed Suarez at the same time that we signed Sanchez. He was available from Ajax after having a much better World Cup than Sanchez in the summer of 2010. And that was Suarez before any biting incidents. A Suarez that Liverpool bought in January of 2011 for £22M after his first biting incident.
 

Devils

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I don't believe anyone here actually believes getting Suarez and offloading Sanchez was a bad move.

Anyone?

Suarez has been 10x as effective in 1.5 seasons here as Sanchez was in 3.

Sanchez is a good player, world class when he is consistent, but Saurez is elite.
 

Messi983

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We could have signed Suarez at the same time that we signed Sanchez. He was available from Ajax after having a much better World Cup than Sanchez in the summer of 2010. And that was Suarez before any biting incidents. A Suarez that Liverpool bought in January of 2011 for £22M after his first biting incident.

I think there are 4 main reasons why we didn't buy Suarez:

1. Messi was playing as a false 9 and scoring 70+ goals per season. Pep would need to change the system that made us to the best team in the world (and maybe in the history) to get Suarez into the team (how would Messi react to that?; yes, I know he's happy to have Suarez right now but back then I'm not so sure) or more likely play him on the wing where he wouldn't be that effective.

2. Suarez's agent was (and I think still is) Pep's brother. I think Pep himself said that he didn't want to bring Suarez because of this connection.

3. At that time still wasn't clear if Suarez was a WC player or not. Of course he played great in Ajax but there were a lot of players who were doing great in Eredivisie but then failed in better leagues.

4. Liverpool bought Suarez in January. There are not a lot of big money transfers in January transfer window that worked well. You can see Torres transfer to Chelsea in the same transfer window as a good example for that. Liverpool was lucky that Suarez was the real deal.
 
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