9 - Robert Lewandowski

Maradona37

Well-known member
Yeah i agree that his ability to hold the ball was crap last few games, he was good in that aspect at the beginning of the season but looks like he lost his form. Im pretty sure he will improve over the season, he is his biggest critic, lets see in 2-3 months :D
We will see what happens.

Maybe I am too dogmatic and in being a big proponent of eye test. I also have a big liking for seeing mistakes in games and where they can be improved, and not believing 'moments' (whether it be a tackle, a save, a pass or the ultimate moment, a goal) compensate for costing the team throughout a game with a poor general performance.
 

soul24rage

Senior Member
Yeah i agree that his ability to hold the ball was crap last few games, he was good in that aspect at the beginning of the season but looks like he lost his form. Im pretty sure he will improve over the season, he is his biggest critic, lets see in 2-3 months :D
I hope you are right Fati, but considering what happened in the past couple of seasons, it'll be more likely that his performance will decrease than improve.
 

TemporaryFan

Well-known member
That's hilarious 😂 if you think of it.
Lewandowski is hated on here the same way, Hussain Bolt would be for not winning every sprint at his age today.
It is like a 25 year old women married 60 + year old stud and complained he would not give it to her every night.
It is like Russian deployed T-34s in Ukraine and complained
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
The bias against him is pretty obvious.

A good game in this tournament would be dismissed and claimed that super cup is irrelevant. When he plays poorly though like against Monaco in Gamper friendly and there's a meltdown like it's a CL knockout match.
I don't see why people would be biased against him though, mate? It isn't a Ronaldo situation where he behaves badly and is a rival of a Barca player. Lewy is pretty inoffensive as a person and plays FOR Barca.

I think people just genuinely don't rate him at his age. Now, if you are saying they (and me too) have made up their minds on him as a player and refuse to give him any credit, even when he plays well, that is a different story. But I for one praised him a lot after the Real Madrid game. Performances like that (despite the two misses too) need to be his consistent level, but the guy is too old.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
That's hilarious 😂 if you think of it.
Lewandowski is hated on here the same way, Hussain Bolt would be for not winning every sprint at his age today.
It is like a 25 year old women married 60 + year old stud and complained he would not give it to her every night.
It is like Russian deployed T-34s in Ukraine and complained
But the thing is, as people rightly note - if everyone agrees he's past his prime and well in decline - why should people be happy he is playing up front for Barcelona at his age?
 

Rassvet

Well-known member
I don't see why people would be biased against him though, mate? It isn't a Ronaldo situation where he behaves badly and is a rival of a Barca player. Lewy is pretty inoffensive as a person.

I think people just genuinely don't rate him at his age. Now, if you are saying they (and me too) have made up their minds on him as a player and refuse to give him any credit, even when he plays well, that is a different story. But I for one praised him a lot after the Real Madrid game. Performances like that (despite the two misses too) need to be his consistent level, but the guy is too old.
A lot of the bias is because of Temp. Some of it is probably also overcompensating for insecurity towards Bayern by trying to act like a Bayern legend isn't good enough for Barca even though he's still tearing it up for Barca at 36 when past his prime.

Can see some of the first one in the trolling of Liverpool and the second one in those who were/are desperate for Flick to fail.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
A lot of the bias is because of Temp. Some of it is probably also overcompensating for insecurity towards Bayern by trying to act like a Bayern legend isn't good enough for Barca even though he's still tearing it up for Barca at 36 when past his prime.

Can see some of the first one in the trolling of Liverpool and the second one in those who were/are desperate for Flick to fail.
Yeah I said that myself. Temp's big love for him puts people on here off him a bit. Though their love and care for Barca probably overrides what an internet poster they've ever met does. But it does play a big part.

Bayern are a huge club, as are Barcelona. Obviously Bayern players of past times would be good enough for good Barca teams but if anyone thinks that about Bayern I don't agree with that.

Flick is a weird one. I am not a Barca fan but prefer them to most clubs so would like to see him do well. But deep down I just think it might go south later in the season. There are some warning signs there. Hope I am pleasantly surprised though.
 

Nello

Member
The bias against him is pretty obvious.

A good game in this tournament would be dismissed and claimed that super cup is irrelevant. When he plays poorly though like against Monaco in Gamper friendly and there's a meltdown like it's a CL knockout match.

He's playing badly in important league games for months now. Even in the Classico, when he had a good game, he missed a tap in and a big chance.

His overall play is awful lately. You can't watch his shitty first touches and countless lost balls and tell me he plays well. He has by far the lowest workrate in the team. If he screws up the big chances he gets aswell, then I'm not sure what his contribution is exactly.

He's a superstar and the most well paid player in the team, of course we're being harsh on him when he is shit.
I would love for him to perform well and us winning games as a result, but this isnt whats happening lately.
 

Ter Stature

Active member
Why do people these days always call obvious facts "hate"?!
Damn thin-skinned. Do you need a safespace?

Going into the next season with 37 year-old Lewy would be like throwing away all trophies right from the start.

He's the second oldest scorer in the Champions League this season, football is a very short lived sport.
 

TemporaryFan

Well-known member
But the thing is, as people rightly note - if everyone agrees he's past his prime and well in decline - why should people be happy he is playing up front for Barcelona at his age?
Maybe he's all they got at the moment. Best there is. That's the whole point. They can't find anyone better, whom they coukd entrust with the role.
Maybe his cyclical downturn of form is something they already included as a part of the model, like a matrix of many variables, despite of some of them being negative or unstable, the final outcome will still be highly positive or desirable.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Maybe he's all they got at the moment. Best there is. That's the whole point. They can't find anyone better, whom they coukd entrust with the role.
Maybe his cyclical downturn of form is something they already included as a part of the model, like a matrix of many variables, despite of some of them being negative or unstable, the final outcome will still be highly positive or desirable.
Yeah they might be gambling that they can carry him in general play and hoping he will pop up and finish the chances in enough games to win the league, or enough big games to go deep in the Champions League. However, it is a very risky strategy given his age and his poor general play.

In his defence (and without getting into the financials of transfers) there aren't that many great or viable strikers around right now. Since Messi and Ronaldo the tendency has been for wide forwards to deliver the end product.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
He's playing badly in important league games for months now. Even in the Classico, when he had a good game, he missed a tap in and a big chance.

His overall play is awful lately. You can't watch his shitty first touches and countless lost balls and tell me he plays well. He has by far the lowest workrate in the team. If he screws up the big chances he gets aswell, then I'm not sure what his contribution is exactly.

He's a superstar and the most well paid player in the team, of course we're being harsh on him when he is shit.
I would love for him to perform well and us winning games as a result, but this isnt whats happening lately.
Yes, Lewy seems a decent guy to me, and I would love for him to make me eat my words and help Barca to one or both of the two big trophies. It would be a nice ending to his career to top it off with a CL trophy for Barca then go somewhere else or retire. But it just looks miles away from happening for him and the smart money and logic says it won't happen, because he is very old for a footballer and all the signs are there that his all-round game has declined drastically. If Barca do win the CL or La Liga it will likely be in spite of his general play and missed chances.

But you never know what might happen, he could turn it around. If I was betting my life either way though it would be that he won't.
 

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