Adama Traore

Zangash

Banned
Halilovic would be already playing in A-team, if we had no Messi. They play the same position and with Messi minutes Halilovic is unlikely to get enough time on pitch to develop further. That is the only reason for his loan, not his abilities.

Adama lacks awareness, but that's the thing that can be learned more easily than ball control and speed - and in those two apects of game he's only second to Messi in whole team including Neymar, Suarez and Iniesta IMO. I don't believe our B-team was good for his development. I heard Eusebio did not talk to some players for months. That's absurd, young talents need guidance.

Rafinha is also the same type of player as Messi but he's much better than Halilovic. Alen overall is nowhere near ready for the first team and even without Messi he would still have a long way to go until he is.

Where is Adama going to learn his awareness? On the first team bench? On the bench of some loan club that doesn't like him because of his lack of awareness? Or at some loan club that lets him start every game despite his faults that he doesn't try to improve?
 

Bran the Greenseer

Well-known member
Rafinha isnt the same type of player as Messi/Halilovic, Messi can play like both Halilovic and Rafinha but Halilovic can only play like MEssi while Rafinha plays more like a cm imo. You can see it when he plays on the wing, he's more like iniesta in that the 4-3-3 turns into a sort of 4-3-1-2 with the 1 being iniesta/rafinha out wideish but not exactly in the forward line. Although you are right Rafinha is better than Halilovic and thats the reason Halilovic doesn't have a place here atm cause even though they can both play RW in their own way the only mins available are in midfield and Rafinha will surely take up all Xavi's mins.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Halilovic might dribble and pass in the same style like Messi but even in comparison to style of play(clearly we aren't comparing player level here) he is totally different than Messi and position wise he is more of AM like Iniesta too
Messi always move to be close in target with Barca .his positioning is that of an attacker.even in last 2 seasons when he drops a lot he always move to Penalty area to try to score
Alen is a clearly a midfield player , he rarely go to penalty area and he is opposite to Messi in that .he played mor CM with Barca B than a winger .
 

anguy

New member
. Although you are right Rafinha is better than Halilovic and thats the reason Halilovic doesn't have a place here atm cause even though they can both play RW in their own way the only mins available are in midfield and Rafinha will surely take up all Xavi's mins.

Rafinha isn't really much better, just more experienced. And our managers doesn't seem to think he is a sure thing, otherwise there wouldn't be so many rumors about midfielders signings.

Alen is a clearly a midfield player , he rarely go to penalty area and he is opposite to Messi in that .he played mor CM with Barca B than a winger.

He is less of a goalscorer, true. But he isn't really a CM either, he is winger/AM (typical 10 position) hybrid. He only played as CM, because of necessity, we had Adama as RW and no one in midfield.
 
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khaled_a_d

Senior Member
He is less of a goalscorer, true. But he isn't really a CM either, he is winger/AM (typical 10 position) hybrid. He only played as CM, because of necessity, we had Adama as RW and no one in midfield.

He is clearly an AM and he can play on the wing or more deeper role in CM if needed .I didn't see anything that suggest that he would is an attacker/winger mainly .again just like Iniesta
 

Bran the Greenseer

Well-known member
Rafinha isn't really much better, just more experienced. And our managers doesn't seem to think he is a sure thing, otherwise there wouldn't be so many rumors about midfielders signings.

If you put Halilovic against the competition Rafinha faces you'll see the difference in quality. Halilovic has shown to have all of Rafinha's talents bar his defensive prowess but he hasn't had to play against the likes of RM,Villareal (And barca while he was at celta) and others like Rafinha has. Even with much tougher competition Rafinha regularly dribbles past 3 even up to 5 players and never ends up dribbling up a blind alley like Alen does (although he's getting better at it). Put Rafinha in our midfield and against all but the top 5 teams(RM,Bayern,Atletico etc) maybe we wouldn't notice a drop in the team's level.
 

Darko

New member
Halilovic would be already playing in A-team, if we had no Messi. They play the same position and with Messi minutes Halilovic is unlikely to get enough time on pitch to develop further. That is the only reason for his loan, not his abilities.

Adama lacks awareness, but that's the thing that can be learned more easily than ball control and speed - and in those two apects of game he's only second to Messi in whole team including Neymar, Suarez and Iniesta IMO. I don't believe our B-team was good for his development. I heard Eusebio did not talk to some players for months. That's absurd, young talents need guidance.

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xXKonan

Senior Member
Contract of B winger Adama (19) says that he should this summer be promoted or leave on loan. Luis Enrique doesn't count on him for now [md]
 

Zangash

Banned
Contract of B winger Adama (19) says that he should this summer be promoted or leave on loan. Luis Enrique doesn't count on him for now [md]

As expected really. He's not with the first team for the US tour so he'll probably go out on loan. Lucho has no interest in his type of player.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
I don't get it, Adama and Grimaldo are not that similar.

Lucho didn't call-up Adama so that apparently means that he is crap and not the type of player he is looking for according to [MENTION=16820]Zangash[/MENTION]

But he didn't call-up Grimaldo either. Just using his logic there too.
 

Zangash

Banned
Lucho didn't call-up Adama so that apparently means that he is crap and not the type of player he is looking for according to [MENTION=16820]Zangash[/MENTION]

But he didn't call-up Grimaldo either. Just using his logic there too.

Look at the amount of time he has given to players like Adama. Compare that to the time he's given to the likes of Munir. Look at the treatment of Deulofeu and compare it to the treatment of Rafinha.

If Grimaldo hasn't been called up or even considered by Lucho then it very well might be the case that Lucho just doesn't rate him.

Adama being crap is a conclusion I was able to come to just by watching him play.
 

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