Alexander Isak

[serghei]

They might let him go eventually, but it's a bad look and a humiliation for their owners if he goes exactly after they win their first cup in decades. They won't have that, and if they do, they'll ask an enormous sum to spin it as a win.

 

[DonAK]

He will leave in 2026.

 

[fergus90]

He'd do well at Barcelona, but the money don't make sense anymore. I wonder why we're not coming up with homegrown talents at no9. That would save the day in this position as well .

He'll stay in England for sure now but just hypothetically speaking, he'd of been a great option. To be honest, any half sensible 9 will get goals in a Flick team.

 

[serghei]

He'll stay in England for sure now but just hypothetically speaking, he'd of been a great option. To be honest, any half sensible 9 will get goals in a Flick team.

Yeah, no doubt. But my position is that you need to work harder at scouting level and find the next Isak like Newcastle did. Surely nobody was drooling over Isak 2 years ago.

I know it's hard, but find the next 9 that can be good right away, with potential to reach world class status in 1-2 seasons. You'd still have to pay serious money for that player, but more like 50-60 than 150-160.

 

[Windhook]

Yeah, no doubt. But my position is that you need to work harder at scouting level and find the next Isak like Newcastle did. Surely nobody was drooling over Isak 2 years ago.

I know it's hard, but find the next 9 that can be good right away, with potential to reach world class status in 1-2 seasons.

Isak played for years in front of our eyes in Sociedad. Barca don't have a good scouting, that's for sure.

 

[JamDav1982]

It is not about scouting.

Barca were never going to pay 70m for a player that had shown what he had to that point.

Newcastle gambled and it worked. Easy to say now they knew what getting but can go other way.

 

[serghei]

It is not about scouting.

Barca were never going to pay 70m for a player that had shown what he had to that point.

Newcastle gambled and it worked. Easy to say now they knew what getting but can go other way.

Why not? Isn't this what top technical director does? Pick the right player? If it's a pure gamble, anyone could do the job.

 

[JamDav1982]

Why not? Isn't this what top technical director does? Pick the right player? If it's a pure gamble, anyone could do the job.

Its always a gamble and Newcastle had money to spend and he had a clause and willing to move.

Easy to say picked right player after it works.

There is zero chance Barca taking a gamble and paying 70m for a plyer that scored 6 goals in league the previous season even if scout report said the potential upside is huge.

They just wouldnt do it.. and couldnt anyway due to FFP.

 

[serghei]

OK, then if you don't do that, and you can't afford to sign elite players after they have already proved themselves and risk becomes smaller (not non existent btw), then how do we sign exactly our next no9?

Look for opportunities on the market and sign another older player and give him a longer contract or something like we did with Lewandowski? Maybe attract Kane from Bayern 2-3 years from now at 33-34?

Option of scouting and taking a risk, hopefully an inspired risk, is the best we have imo.

 

[JamDav1982]

OK, then if you don't do that, and you can't afford to sign elite players after they have already proved themselves and risk becomes smaller (not non existent btw), then how do we sign exactly our next no9?

Look for opportunities on the market and sign another older player and give him a longer contract or something like we did with Lewandowski?

When do you think Barca should have signed Isak?

You are assuming everyone knew Isak would be 'elite'.

No one has ever said 'dont sign players who will improve' but spending 70m on a player who scores 6 league goals season before will rarely ever happen and not in situation Barca were.

Why didt all these other teams needing a striker sign him?

 

[serghei]

When do you think Barca should have signed Isak?

You are assuming everyone knew Isak would be 'elite'.

No one has ever said 'dont sign players who will improve' but spending 70m on a player who scores 6 league goals season before will rarely ever happen.

Why didt all these other teams needing a striker sign him?

No, I get your point, but at the end of the day, that's the difficult job of making signings. How do you know someone that works for Newcastle in a high position wasn't convinced that Isak can be the 9 they need.

How did Liverpool got Salah for example? Obviously some top Liverpool executives looked at him and picked him as the next big thing. People that know this stuff should be working at the top clubs. Of course there's still some gamble involved, any transfer is a gamble. Even 150m signings, check Bartomeu era.

 

[DonAK]

It's a good thing we didn't sign Isak or Lautaro or someone else from 2019-2021 because I've no doubt all of them would have flopped given how toxic the situation was at the club back then.

 

[JamDav1982]

No, I get your point, but at the end of the day, that's the difficult job of making signings. How do you know someone that works for Newcastle in a high position wasn't convinced that Isak can be the 9 they need.

How did Liverpool got Salah for example? People that know this stuff should be working at the top clubs. Of course there's still some gamble involved, any transfer is a gamble. Even 150m signings, check Bartomeu era.

No idea what you are even trying to say,

I would bet Newcastle as many clubs did identified that Isak could develop into top player and they decided to pull trigger..they have smaller pool of top players that would even move and have to pay more than other clubs to take those risks.

Again.. why did Barca or no other top club needing a CF sign him and let Newcastle in?

What is the point about Salah?

Why did Liverpool pay big money for Nunez?

 

[serghei]

No idea what you are even trying to say,

I would bet Newcastle as many clubs did identified that Isak could develop into top player and they decided to pull trigger..they have smaller pool of top players that would even move and have to pay more than other clubs to take those risks.

Again.. why did Barca or not other top club needing a CF sign him and let Newcastle in?

First establish the need. Is Lewandowski good enough for another season? Yes, or no? If no, look at options in the team, can Torres play CF here next season? Probably not. Then go from there.

If you do end up deciding that you need a new no 9 in the summer, set the sum you can spend, look at promising names that fit the type of player you need (after consulting with Flick naturally), and get that player.

That's the only thing you can do. Makes no sense in looking at super expensive players that you can't afford.

 

[JamDav1982]

First establish the need. Is Lewandowski good enough for another season? Yes, or no? If no, look at options in the team, can Torres play CF here next season? Then go from there.

If you do end up needing a 9 in the summer, set the sum you can spend, look at promising names that fit the type of player you need, and get that player.

That's the only thing you can do. Makes no point in looking at super expensive players that you can't afford.

When should Barca have signed Isak?

Barca would not be looking to replace Lewa with a player who scored 6 league goals if situation was now.

They would spend that same money on likes of Osihmen or Gyokeres. More established.

Easy to point to Isak when know he developed.