KingMessi
SiempreBlaugrana
The real problem is the way our wingers play these days. If you look at Pedro with Spain, he's been their top scorer during World Cup qualification. Similarly Alexis has been great with Chile.
tello
New member
te amo barca
Blaugrana al vent
I've posted that gif specially for Alexis haters"Alexis vs. Gdansk" says it all dude !
Armando929
New member
Pedro was much worse than either Villa or Alexis and he still gets games. I know he's Masia but loyalty should only go so far. He hasn't played well since 2010 and he's held to a much lower standard than Alexis. Ridiculous.
CesDel
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Using this logic, Arsenal used Gallas as their playmaker because he used the nr 10 when he was there. Or we are using Fabregas as a RB/DM, because he is wearing the nr 4..
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So, if he can do it, why has Alexis delivered more while playing far less?
Explain please.
He could be wearing the #999 for all I care. The point was that he was bought intended to start BEFORE and not COMPETE with Pedro. The fact that Alexis plays less tell you something. Flashes of "brilliance" against a polish team that finished 8th in their league cannot change that. If Tello had to get just as much playing as Neymar after two seasons tells you what management would've taught of Neymar. It is almost like telling me that Neymar was bought for $57m as a starting forward/winger but then after two seasons has to compete with Tello to start. It would just be a gamble that did not pay off
tello
New member
I've posted that gif specially for Alexis haters
Well, that was obvious. I think everybody calls "hater" to each other way too easy !
As far as I'm concerned I could never hate a Barcelona player, at least as long as he plays for Barca and its not some sort of freak...
tello
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Because not even attackers get measured only by their numbers as goalkeepers aren't rated based on the number of goals they concede, Zamora trophy isn't of much relevance, obviously !
It's a much more complex scheme but I certainly won't try to expose it in these type of conversations because the theory is too long, too abstract and far too unpopular !
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Trickykid
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Right, so I think we can all agree that his attitude has been noteworthy, his off the ball movement decent, his workrate admirable, and yet, even if we look past his disappointing numbers, he's still been shit for the last two seasons, as you so eloquently put it. I'd honestly love to see this supremely long, complex, abstract and unpopular scheme of yours. My feeble mind will probably not be able to comprehend it's heavenly glory but hey, it's a worth a shot, wouldn't you say?
With or without numbers, Alexis is and has been better since he came to Barcelona.
What is Pedro doing that makes him superior to Alexis?
DennyCrane
Senior Member
It's so cool to shit on him whatever he does. Scores - sucks. Doesn't score - sucks. Falls over - sucks. Doesn't fall over - sucks. Scores and falls over - sucks. Crumbles again - sucks. Gets a grip - sucks. Slower than Messi - sucks. Doesn't dribble like Messi - sucks. Doesn't pass like Xavi - sucks. Loses the ball - sucks. Wins the ball back - sucks. Works his ass off - sucks. Doesn't do enough step-overs - sucks. Isn't Aguerro - sucks.
And here we have a prime example of what constructive criticism is not. Packed with set phrases, platitudes and assumptions and fueled by a surprisingly intense, yet strangely familiar dislike that really tries to, but fails to hide in the subtext. Maybe it's just me getting old and stuff, but I feel like I've read this post a million times already. And I'm kinda tired.
Whose expectations didn't he meet ? The medias', yours ? What were those expectations and what were they based on ? Were they realistic or was the wish father to the thought ? Please be more specific; unless of course it boils down to the casual 'he needz to score moar goalz !!!!111!!' remark or the highly sophisticated 'he sucks monkeyfuck and pukes diarrhea lolz' and it's abundant derivatives which are among the usual evaluations here and therefore don't need to be brought up yet again.
Doesn't have anything to do with his performance, nor is a transfer-fee by default a benchmark or a special incentive. The cost of a player doesn't equal to the transfer fee either, as a transfer-fee is an operating expense, while at the same time being an investment into an intangible asset, that derogates profit and saves taxes. If you really want to determine his true cost, you'd have to be an accountant, Barcas' accountant to be precise. Which you are most likely not, I presume. Case closed, moving on.
Same as above.
Also, Pedro is a good samaritan who works here on community service as it seems. Furthermore, a youth system has operating costs such as equipment, personnel, infrastructure and its' maintenance etc. A cantera player is not free. They cost money. Each and every one of them.
I agree on the CB, but I have an easier solution. We keep Sanchez and buy a CB. Now how does that sound ? What's the point of selling exactly, aside from the money-thing which is obviously a dead rabbit you conviniently pulled out your sleeve ?
Define Barcelona material. What is the spectrum of skills and traits required, what skills and traits does Sanchez have, is there a notable difference between these and what is the consequence of this ?
And here we have a prime example of what constructive criticism is not. Packed with set phrases, platitudes and assumptions and fueled by a surprisingly intense, yet strangely familiar dislike that really tries to, but fails to hide in the subtext. Maybe it's just me getting old and stuff, but I feel like I've read this post a million times already. And I'm kinda tired.
Whose expectations didn't he meet ? The medias', yours ? What were those expectations and what were they based on ? Were they realistic or was the wish father to the thought ? Please be more specific; unless of course it boils down to the casual 'he needz to score moar goalz !!!!111!!' remark or the highly sophisticated 'he sucks monkeyfuck and pukes diarrhea lolz' and it's abundant derivatives which are among the usual evaluations here and therefore don't need to be brought up yet again.
Doesn't have anything to do with his performance, nor is a transfer-fee by default a benchmark or a special incentive. The cost of a player doesn't equal to the transfer fee either, as a transfer-fee is an operating expense, while at the same time being an investment into an intangible asset, that derogates profit and saves taxes. If you really want to determine his true cost, you'd have to be an accountant, Barcas' accountant to be precise. Which you are most likely not, I presume. Case closed, moving on.
Same as above.
Also, Pedro is a good samaritan who works here on community service as it seems. Furthermore, a youth system has operating costs such as equipment, personnel, infrastructure and its' maintenance etc. A cantera player is not free. They cost money. Each and every one of them.
I agree on the CB, but I have an easier solution. We keep Sanchez and buy a CB. Now how does that sound ? What's the point of selling exactly, aside from the money-thing which is obviously a dead rabbit you conviniently pulled out your sleeve ?
Define Barcelona material. What is the spectrum of skills and traits required, what skills and traits does Sanchez have, is there a notable difference between these and what is the consequence of this ?
Gohan
Super Saiyan
You can clearly see he his gaining confidence in his actions.. I hope he shows it this season cause it might be his last if he doesn't step up his game.
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