Alexis Sanchez

Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
Good play on devils advocate there, Sumlit.

On the flip side, Alexis has grown to fit his role at Barcelona. For all the flack Tata has received lately by our fans, one of his strongest praises could be instilling confidence in key players like Alexis, Cesc, and Bartra… perhaps even the reemergence of Valdez. So where he has been weak in perhaps motivating the core group or keeping fluidity in gameplay, he has excelled in man management and tactical variation.

Alexis is having his best season at Barca, and he has definitely gotten a lot more comfortable with his role in the team, but I personally would not say he has grown to fit his role. I've always maintained that Alexis Sanchez is a very good player with loads of talent, but he simply is not the type of player Barcelona need.

After so much pain and struggle in a role that did not suit his skills, he has managed to get more comfortable playing there, but at the end of the day his skillset is simply not an ideal fit. There are other players that are not necessarily more talented than him that would nonetheless be better fits.
 

André

New member
Yeah, Hazard and Reus takes all penalties and corners. Alexis no. And Alexis doesn't even play on his best position and doesn't have that free role like Hazard and Reus.
 

Pepe Silvia

Active member
Alexis does a lot more right these days than wrong. For example, let's take a look at his skill set:

Pros
-dribbling
-movement
-passing
-speed
-transition play/counters
-tracking back/defense

Cons
-finishing
-aerial abilities
-holding the ball
-losing possession
-physicality/strength

I will maintain that Alexis vs Alexis has always been the main problem. It was less about his qualities as a player than it was about being in his own head and underperforming for so long that frustrated Barca fans (I was leading the pitchfork party in that respect). Yes, the ordeal lasted for over 2 seasons but now that his confidence is steadily soaring, I want to see what else is in store for the Chilean. Something tells me we haven't even tapped his full potential yet.

Tito and Pep failed to help Alexis play a supporting (yet vital) role at Barca and that could have been why he suffered so long. Tata has seemed to keep him confident which has worked wonders and he hasn't really minded being a supporting role. This for someone who is used to being the head guy at a club (Udinese/Chile). Tata deserves a ton of credit here. For the first time, I see Alexis thriving with other dominant Barca players, something even the great Ibra couldn't do, so I wouldn't want to disrupt that chemistry. As I said, his good outweighs his bad (given he stays confident).
 

Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
Yeah, Hazard and Reus takes all penalties and corners. Alexis no. And Alexis doesn't even play on his best position and doesn't have that free role like Hazard and Reus.

Yeah, Lampard takes most penalties and corners for Chelsea, and again, Reus has played a lot less games than Alexis. The fact that Alexis does not play in his best position is exactly the point. He's being forced into a constricted role that just simply does not suit him.
His role is even more constricted and specific with Messi on the field and his dip in efficiency is even more appreciable.
 

tello

New member
Where are you, tello? gascav? An assist and a goal again :worthy:
haters gonna hate

Right here.
A very lucky goal yet again from a huge offiside position and made some very bad interceptions and passes in the box, one almost led to a Sevilla goal putting them on the counter when he completely missed a shot he intended to send on the target...
The single important and correct pass he made was to Cesc when the game was already set, still a good one...

Positives : Very nice from him he scored yet again no matter what, he runs like a mad man thus helping the team in puting pressure on the opponent, he tracked back very well and defended very well making even a couple of good tackles.

The bad : Still missed a few rare chances shooting away from the goal from good positions, missed some simple crosses into the box, fell again very easily in a few physical contacts, sent quite a few bad passes when he could have served Messi a lot more better.

The game conclusion is positive he scored, he asisted and he fought hard though he missed many chances of doing a better job.
 
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Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
Alexis does a lot more right these days than wrong. For example, let's take a look at his skill set:

Pros
-dribbling
-movement
-passing
-speed
-transition play/counters
-tracking back/defense

Cons
-finishing
-aerial abilities
-holding the ball
-losing possession
-physicality/strength

I will maintain that Alexis vs Alexis has always been the main problem. It was less about his qualities as a player than it was about being in his own head and underperforming for so long that frustrated Barca fans (I was leading the pitchfork party in that respect). Yes, the ordeal lasted for over 2 seasons but now that his confidence is steadily soaring, I want to see what else is in store for the Chilean. Something tells me we haven't even tapped his full potential yet.

Tito and Pep failed to help Alexis play a supporting (yet vital) role at Barca and that could have been why he suffered so long. Tata has seemed to keep him confident which has worked wonders and he hasn't really minded being a supporting role. This for someone who is used to being the head guy at a club (Udinese/Chile). Tata deserves a ton of credit here. For the first time, I see Alexis thriving with other dominant Barca players, something even the great Ibra couldn't do, so I wouldn't want to disrupt that chemistry. As I said, his good outweighs his bad (given he stays confident).

I disagree with a few Pros.

For instance, Alexis is not that good a dribbler. He is good in open space, but in constricted space with players marking him (his role for Barca) he does too many sideway moves that end up with him tripping on his own feet, getting dispossessed, or a backwards pass. Statistically, he has barely averaged a dribble per game for Barca. This season he seem a little braver, but still I would not call him a dribbler.
His movement off the ball for the role he is asked to do for this team is also nothing to write home about.
His work rate is high, but his defensive contribution is really overrated.

I would also add first touch and balance to the list of Cons.

The problem with Alexis was he was brought to fill a role for which his skills are suitable. However, circumstances change that. When Alexis was brought, Barca had an in form Villa, and in form Pedro and Messi. Three players who fit the profile of direct, incisive forwards. What the team lacked was a creative support forward.
What happened was Villa lost form and got injured, was never the same, and Pedro's form also took a big dip. That forced Alexis into a role that was not suitable for him, that of the direct goalscorer on which the team depended on every game. Understandably he struggled and it hit him psychologically.

Nothing has really changed personnel wise still, but Tata has obviously told Alexis to play to his strength and what makes him comfortable. He has gained in confidence and shed his mental block, but that still does not change the fact that his skillset is not what this team needs. Alexis would excel in a situation that would afford him freedom, both positionally on the field and responsibility-wise, as in him not being required and depended on to scored every game.
 

DinhoR10

New member
I disagree with a few Pros.

For instance, Alexis is not that good a dribbler. He is good in open space, but in constricted space with players marking him (his role for Barca) he does too many sideway moves that end up with him tripping on his own feet, getting dispossessed, or a backwards pass. Statistically, he has barely averaged a dribble per game for Barca. This season he seem a little braver, but still I would not call him a dribbler.
His movement off the ball for the role he is asked to do for this team is also nothing to write home about.
His work rate is high, but his defensive contribution is really overrated.

I would also add first touch and balance to the list of Cons.

The problem with Alexis was he was brought to fill a role for which his skills are suitable. However, circumstances change that. When Alexis was brought, Barca had an in form Villa, and in form Pedro and Messi. Three players who fit the profile of direct, incisive forwards. What the team lacked was a creative support forward.
What happened was Villa lost form and got injured, was never the same, and Pedro's form also took a big dip. That forced Alexis into a role that was not suitable for him, that of the direct goalscorer on which the team depended on every game. Understandably he struggled and it hit him psychologically.

Nothing has really changed personnel wise still, but Tata has obviously told Alexis to play to his strength and what makes him comfortable. He has gained in confidence and shed his mental block, but that still does not change the fact that his skillset is not what this team needs. Alexis would excel in a situation that would afford him freedom, both positionally on the field and responsibility-wise, as in him not being required and depended on to scored every game.

If hes meant to be creative support then he's not really needed anymore aside from rotation because of neymar.
 

Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
If hes meant to be creative support then he's not really needed anymore aside from rotation because of neymar.

Indeed, Neymar took away any role that Alexis could have efficiently filled for this team. This is why I continue to maintain this team would do better with a more direct goalscoring forward in his place.
 
Right here.
A very lucky goal yet again from a huge offiside position and made some very bad interceptions and passes in the box, one almost led to a Sevilla goal putting them on the counter when he completely missed a shot he intended to send on the target...
The single important and correct pass he made was to Cesc when the game was already set, still a good one...

Positives : Very nice from him he scored yet again no matter what, he runs like a mad man thus helping the team in puting pressure on the opponent, he tracked back very well and defended very well making even a couple of good tackles.

The bad : Still missed a few rare chances shooting away from the goal from good positions, missed some simple crosses into the box, fell again very easily in a few physical contacts. sent quite a few bad passes when he could have served Messi a lot more better.

The game conclusion is positive he scored, he asisted and he fought hard though he missed many chances of doing a better job.
What is a good job for a player having his position and his role on the team in your opinion?? You know he is not Messi and will never be, so what do you Think he should accomplish in his role for you to be satisfied im honestly curious? forget that his name is Alexis for a second (I know its hard..). It sure cant be that he scores to Little or assists to Little or is to lazy on the pitch. He fell to easily...did you see the pitch?
 

DinhoR10

New member
Indeed, Neymar took away any role that Alexis could have efficiently filled for this team. This is why I continue to maintain this team would do better with a more direct goalscoring forward in his place.

We seem to agree on the need for an eto'o/henry/villa then :) If only muller wasnt such a dick.
 

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