Sumlit
San Claudio Bravo
So is it going to be expected for Messi to return to his previous production and instead of doubling the production of the other forwards, to triple it or quadruple it like in previous years? Is that what we should expect?
So is it going to be expected for Messi to return to his previous production and instead of doubling the production of the other forwards, to triple it or quadruple it like in previous years? Is that what we should expect?
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Sir Alupp Heynrguson
It's not what we should rely on or anything, but it would have been the least surprising thing this season, as opposed to Neymar and Alexis matching his tally.
serghei
Senior Member
Yea, the injury was unfortunate, but Ronaldo also had problems with injuries. In fact, Ronaldo played 2540 minutes this season, and Messi played 2613. His season was mediocre for his huge standards, but still good for normal standards. That's the truth.
serghei
Senior Member
Yea, out of Alexis, Neymar and Messi, Alexis' numbers are the most surprising. I didn't expect Alexis to score more than Benzema for example.
Kerrybai
New member
^Expecting Messi to produce like before is unfair under the current tavtics. He averaged 45 passes ppg, the same as 09/10. He also average the same 0.89 goals ppg. The other seasons he got the bdll more averaging overview 60 passes ppg, and as a result he scored more goals. He'll scored the insane numbers when he revieves the ball more, bringing Ronaldo into tie debate is uneccessary.
Nothing at all surprising about Messi's numbers when you take into account our tactics which no longer centred around him.
Nothing at all surprising about Messi's numbers when you take into account our tactics which no longer centred around him.
serghei
Senior Member
I don't expect Messi to do anything. I just call it what I see it. His season was pretty good, but two other players have had better seasons. Since I know Messi wants to be the best in the world again, he needs to step it up. And he understands that.
Sumlit
San Claudio Bravo
Well then in that case, let's demand more from the other 2 forwards instead of feeling disappointed when Messi merely doubles their individual production instead of tripling or quadrupling it. Last I checked they are also supposed to be world class player, even if they cannot compete in talent with Messi.
That's because he didn't. Alexis scored 21 goals this season, Benzema 24.
serghei
Senior Member
I was talking about the League, you know, the longest and most relevant competition of the season.
CesDel
New member
C.Ronaldo has played 2655 minutes, while Messi has played 2613 minutes.
The stats taken from the homepage of Barca & Real Madrid
http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/staff/players/messi/stats
http://www.realmadrid.com/en/football/squad/cristiano-ronaldo-dos-santos
Considering that this is, apparently, C.Ronaldo best ever season and Messi's worst ever season, it aint that bad.
Sumlit
San Claudio Bravo
Ah yes, La Liga. I forgot that was the trump card for any and all Alexis arguments. Goals in other competitions, even UCL, don't really matter.
xavi_the_Boss
New member
Well it´s the most important Competiton.
serghei
Senior Member
Man, when you compare top scorers in Europe, you compare them in their domestic leagues, not in CL. Not every player plays in CL.
CesDel
New member
I am only talking about the league, bro. If I would be comparing in all competition it would add up to this..
C.Ronaldo has played 2655 minutes in the league + 914 minutes in the CL + 510 minutes in the cup = 4079 minutes in total.
Messi has played 2613 minutes in the league + 658 minutes in the CL + 493 minutes in the cup = 3764 minutes in total
So basically, C.Ronaldo has played a couple more minutes in the league. And even though this is Messi's worst season EVER, and arguably C.Ronaldo's best season ever, Messi has only scored 3 less goals in the league, while getting 2 more assist.
If you ask me, not that bad considering how much sh*t Messi has been getting..
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CesDel
New member
I don't think that he has been the best player in the world this season either, but then again I don't think that C.ronaldo has been the best either, but that has nothing to do with this arguement. I just think that he is receiving far to much criticism atm considering that Iniesta, for example, who has had an even worse season, has not been criticized at all compared to Messi.
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