Where did you all build the notion from that if a player doesn't fit Barca he is not world class?
Do you measure everything by Barca standards? DELUDED
Facepalm everytime I see the La Liga > EPL blunt argument, as if a league of 2 contenders is better than one of 5 just because 2 teams happen to have "the best players in the world". Elaborate a little more, use stats, etc.
Strawman argument, that's not why we said alexis wasn't world class.
La liga is better than the EPL, the facts and performances of both nations clubs in Europe prove it.
serghei
Senior Member
I'm struggling to image how anyone could say about a player that has had around 50 goals + assists for club and country in 2014 that he is not world class. Everyone is world class from that list except Alexis. Yeah... right.
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Flavia
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Yeah, that is only a myth, that many consider to be true.
Alen
New member
Almost all players from all top teams, especially forwards, are world class. Being world class is not the issue here. Is he a top 10 player though? I don't think so.<iframe style="display: none;" allowtransparency="true" scrolling="no" id="rufous-sandbox" frameborder="0"></iframe>
serghei
Senior Member
At the present, I don't rate Alexis lower than Aguero, Hazard and James Rodriguez, and based on numbers and performances, I don't see any reason why I should. You have Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar and Suarez who are clearly the best (in form Robben gets the 5th spot, but he was injured when it counted most) . After that, there are several players that are close (Aguero, Hazard, Sanchez, James Rodriguez). In one week Aguero has an amazing performance, the next week Hazard seems like he has the edge, and other times it's Sanchez or Rodriguez who look the most in form out of the 4. And yes, I think the attacking players are the most valuable at the present. The top midfielders have declined (Iniesta, Xavi - almost retired, Schweinsteiger, Alonso), have been injured for the most part of the season (Modric, Thiago), are still developing (Pogba, Verratti, Isco, even Rakitic), and the defenders are not at all at a great level (besides Pique and Thiago Silva, who are clearly the best, maybe Ramos and Boateng too, but not this season). Goalkeepers should be rated in a separate section IMO.
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live4united_barca
New member
Well I don't read much into point totals and such, but I'd see more value in lower and relegated teams that were "the worst of a good bunch" rather than they had "this many points" what I mean by that is if the gap between 10th and 20th position is only 5 points than clearly there is not much of a difference between the two sides and the ones between, but this entire condition is underlined by quality as there is no point comparing if the sides are not as good. The quality in the premier league means that on any given day a Portsmouth can beat a Man Utd or Chelsea I think this facet is unrivalled and that is why more people continue to watch the league way more than others.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
It speaks more about the quality of Man Utd and Chelsea right now than the quality of the league.
Besides, it's not like top teams in LL never struggle against bottom sides. It's not huge margin wins every single time. This discussion has got stupid for quite a long time now. La Liga teams are outperforming teams from other leagues in Europe. Not just Barca, Atletico and Real, but the likes of Sevilla and Valencia as well. The top + mid-table teams are better than their counterparts in other leagues. Whether the bottom half sides in PL are better than the ones in LL is debatable, but until English teams can do something substantial in Europe, they'll lag behind.
EPL can keep their 'any team can beat anyone on a given day' for all I care.
They also have to improve in nurturing English talent. English players. EPL got a lot to learn from other leagues in that aspect.
And another thing, I get it, you got money. More than teams from other European leagues get, but atleast use that money wisely and don't overhype and overrate your players. 50m pounds for someone like Sterling is insanity.
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te amo barca
Blaugrana al vent
Alexis was too restricted at Barca, and now he proves his worth in the EPL. He is undoubtedly in top-10 attacking players and arguably top-30 overall.
live4united_barca
New member
I don't think there is a problem with "healthy debate" as long as it stays that way without people trying to put down one or the other and being childish... I myself enjoy both leagues because I love football. It has to be said though that English teams are doing quite bad in Europe at the moment, but I think that it is rather a gross under performance much like the one Madrid suffered a few years ago. I think we'll see an improvement of that this year with the return of man utd
arsenal were knocked out by Monaco last year I don't think they are a better side.... 2005 - 2012 was a great period for English sides...For whatever reason mid table sides in England that play Europa league don't treat it with the same respect as its European counterparts and the production of English talent is somewhat something to be worked on so yes the BPL has things to learn but maybe there are also things LL can learn such as spreading the money more... but whatever though this is an alexis sanchez thread! adiós.
Alexis on his day is up there with the best of them but he lacks a bit of consistency. That's why I don't regard him as a world class player. Same with Fabregas for example.
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