André Gomes

[Aryagorn]

His transfer fee is officially 35m fixed fee + 20m in various team and played based bonuses + 15m if he wins Balon D'Or a few times.

Correct me if I'm wrong but there were reports that the maximum that he could cost to us would be 60m..... But the numbers that you say amount to 70!

 

[Flavia]

I'm willing to bet the clauses meaning is 15mil for every B'Dor he wins until a few have been won.

he wins once, we pay 15mil. Second time, we pay 15mil, third time also 15mil, fourth time no more.

That's not how it's worded. Says clearly it'a fixed special bonus of 15m max if he wins the bdor multiple times. It's a nonsense clause, he's not going to get any, no matter how good he gets.

Correct me if I'm wrong but there were reports that the maximum that he could cost to us would be 60m..... But the numbers that you say amount to 70!

So you see him winning the bdor many times? Those 15m are a fantasy clause. Really strange thing to add. And if he did win it many times, 70m would've been a steal.

 

[Messi983]

I'm willing to bet the clauses meaning is 15mil for every B'Dor he wins until a few have been won.

he wins once, we pay 15mil. Second time, we pay 15mil, third time also 15mil, fourth time no more.

That's too much.

My guess is 5M for every Balon D'or until he gets 3 of them. He won't anyway and IF he does then we'd gladly pay 5 or 15M for having the best player on the world.

 

[Caramel]

His transfer fee is officially 35m fixed fee + 20m in various team and played based bonuses + 15m if he wins Balon D'Or a few times.

That's a joke clause. He's basically at most 55 million, because he is never winning a Ballon D'Or like what the fuck

 

[Aryagorn]

So you see him winning the bdor many times? Those 15m are a fantasy clause. Really strange thing to add. And if he did win it many times, 70m would've been a steal.

No that's what I am saying.... Some thing does not seem right with that news. I mean there was reports that the maximum that we could end up paying for Gomes would be 60M right, so if this joke of a clause indeed true, that previous report would be wrong! Because this way the maximum would amount to 70 instead of 60.

It would be awesome if this joke is accepted and we would end up paying 15M though..... It would probably be the most-happily-spent €15M in history

I saw someone else with a blond Messi avatar too.

Yeah.... Now that there's another fellow causing nightmares to people you would also get back to work, great logic there!

 

[Flavia]

No that's what I am saying.... Some thing does not seem right with that news. I mean there was reports that the maximum that we could end up paying for Gomes would be 60M right, so if this joke of a clause indeed true, that previous report would be wrong! Because this way the maximum would amount to 70 instead of 60.

It would be awesome if this joke is accepted and we would end up paying 15M though..... It would probably be the most-happily-spent €15M in history

Yeah.... Now that there's another fellow causing nightmares to people you would also get back to work, great logic there!

I was with a Messi blond avatar too, briefly.

This is the 1st time the club officially tell the numbers for Gomes. The 35m+20m that were reported earlier weren't wrong, they were just missing this 15m figure. The 20m probably include a few UCLs, so I hope we pay them.

 

[Messi983]

No that's what I am saying.... Some thing does not seem right with that news. I mean there was reports that the maximum that we could end up paying for Gomes would be 60M right, so if this joke of a clause indeed true, that previous report would be wrong! Because this way the maximum would amount to 70 instead of 60.

It would be awesome if this joke is accepted and we would end up paying 15M though..... It would probably be the most-happily-spent €15M in history

Yeah.... Now that there's another fellow causing nightmares to people you would also get back to work, great logic there!

AFAIK there were always mentioned the numbers of 35M+20M (so max. 55M, don't know where did you get 60M). Marca was the first one that reported total transfer could be up to 70M which is now confirmed. At first I thought they were counting the market value of Montoya and Tello (15M seemed too much for them though) who were rumoured to go to Mestalla. Now Barça has officialy confirmed the numbers and there were no mention of either Montoya or Tello so I guess they won't be part of the deal. That doesn't mean they won't end up in Valencia in a different operation, especially Montoya as Telo seems to be closer to Fiorentina.

Don't know if Marca knew about those 15M bonuses for Balon D'or or if they were just trying to make him look more expensive because they were butthurt RM didn't buy him after they had him on their front page for a whole week. It's not really important though. IF he'll ever become the best player in the world he'll be worth 70M total price-tag.

I'm not worried but it seems strange that Valencia still didn't officialy confirm the deal. Maybe they'll wait until tommorow when Gomes has his medicals to see if everything is ok (it should be) before confirming. Or maybe they want to announce another player (Gomes possible replacement?) at the same time. Don't know why they'd be doing that as Valencia fans already know Gomes is gone though.

 

[raki]

He´s gonna cost 40M, tops. 22 years. great player. He was Juventus choice to replace Pogba and Madrid was also sniffing around. Has fooled them all?

 

[xXKonan]

He´s gonna cost 40M, tops. 22 years. great player. He was Juventus choice to replace Pogba and Madrid was also sniffing around. Has fooled them all?

I seen some Juve fans freaking out we bought him because he was their first choice to replace Pogba.

I don't blame them really, The current market this summer and the selection of Good Midfielders was slim. Real were looking for a DM/Rotational player for Modric and they couldn't get Pogba, and with Kante going to Chelsea, they made Gomes their priority. MARCA and AS ran covers like crazy on Real reaching a deal on Gomes and we came out of nowhere and gave them the middle finger and bought Gomes.

The amount of Damage control Madrid Media were putting out after that happened was Ridiculous. they wanted Gomes to be their Modric "Successor" and they missed out on him. Juve are in a tough spot if they sell Pogba though, the market is not very big when it comes to finding a good suitable replacement for him.

 

[DonAK]

Really excited about this transfer. I don't think people realize how huge this can be. He's still raw and inconsistent, but at Barca he'll have a stable environment surrounded by some of the best players there is. He's such an all-round midfielder that can develop into absolutely World Class. Good in retaining possession and breaking forward.

There are obviously question marks over this transfer and I did say that I hoped Madrid would pay 60m+ for him straight up as I thought he didn't warrant the fee(I did however bring him up as an option to Pogba and others ), but the more I think about this transfer, the more interesting it gets.

And he's definitely not mediocre or average. He's had his ups and downs, but among the young midfielders we have right now, he probably had by far the best season at his peak in La Liga so far even though Denis was great last season and Rafinha was voted best young player of the year at Celta. Was absolutely stellar for Valencia in his second season. IMO, Denis and André Gomes are the ones with the highest ceiling, and in best position in terms of becoming starters if they take this chance.

 

[Total-Football]

If the mercato has ever taught me anything it would be this : there is no such thing as successful mercato or shit mercato . players who have cost 0 euro have performed better than 60 70 million euros .. i reserve judgement til the season is over , all i know is : the Pep in me is worried about the large number of midfielders .. Pep never wanted more than 4 established midfielders backed with youth ( copa - second tier games ) , he even sold Yaya and didn't garantee him minutes despite the fact that we had only 4 mid ( in 2011 our mid was : xavi - iniesta - keita - busquests ) .. a very Young thiago and Roberto were given minutes and that helped them becoming what they are today , the processus started with guardiola , so here we are , instead of pushing samper and robero , we're overcrowding this line with quantity , come ferbruary , half of those will never step in the pitch .. we threw money for a back up LB despite having mathiew who is not bad at all as a back up , the biggest issue is us gambling on vidal to sucess in the righ back position.

and then there is the finances , our payroll is the biggest amongst all sport teams and we still giving those large contracts to players and expect them to do us a favor and leave when they don't perform .. i'm sure of one thing , having too many players in one position , will produce many arda turans .

 

[xXKonan]

Lucho and Robert were the ones that wanted Andre Gomes, the most going by the reports from Reliable Journalists like Miguel Rico and Fernando Polo and Oriol Domènech.

When the opportunity to sign Gomes appeared, they went for it and we got him. he was sought after by the likes of Real,United,Juve and Chelsea and us, and with us signing Gomes it gives us a potential to forge a young talent like Gomes into one of the best Midfielders in the world in the future.

Gomes while he won't be a starter right away, He will finally have the chance to play in a system with the best in the world that that has a real solid foundation than the choas he experienced at Valencia or being played out of Position for Portugal.

Him learning under Iniesta,Busi and Rakitic will surely forge him into a beast for the future.

 

[BBZ8800]

the Pep in me is worried about the large number of midfielders .. Pep never wanted more than 4 established midfielders backed with youth ( copa - second tier games )

Pep never had long term injuries to his midfielders, like in 2005 when we lost Motta, Edmilson, Gabri (versatile all round player, something like Roberto) + Larsson, 4 players injured in the first half of a season with cruciate knee ligaments.
Or in 2006, when we lost Xavi with the same injury, in December.

Till 2015 and Rafinha, we were lucky not to have similar injuries to key (midfield) players anymore. (Ok, Milito, Villa)

So, yes, Pep gambled with 4 midfielders and luckily didn't sustain injuries.
Also, Pep didn't have any plan B in his gameplan with taller or different players, or playing counters or anything, so he didn't need more players.

We do have too many midfielders right now.
But if Samper will go on loan, and if we somehow sell Arda, it will be a nice team.
Roberto is a RB-CM-CDM.
And other pure midfielders are only Iniesta, Rakitic, Gomes, Busi and youngsters Rafinha and Denis.

You'll have Pep's recipe again, to some extent, plus we will have additional option in S. Roberto. 4+2+1 midfielders.

 

[Barcilliant]

Roberto will be back up midfielder and probably first choice right back.

Samper should be loaned and I think Arda could be shipped out if we even get a 20 million offer.

That leaves Iniesta, Busi, Rakitic,Gomes,Rafinha and Denis. Rafinha will have a hard time getting minutes but I expect Gomes and Denis to have some decent minutes against minor opposition.

Why are people whining?

We finally have some decent bench strength and squad depth. And the players are young and on the up.

People used to point to Real's squad but we are looking alot better now.

 

[FCBarca]

He's a quality addition, no doubt about it

I'm more concerned with a rotating player with MSN & RB