André Gomes

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Don't think he is a crybaby. I think a lot of people here misinterpret him talking about this as an example of mental weakness or lack of toughness. I think Gomes allowing himself to say these things is the result of how supporting the club and its players are. Likely many players in his position would say the same if they felt they didn't compromise the club or their relationship or respect with the rest of the team.

Now whether we are too soft as a business is another discussion.

I don't think it is a publicity stunt either, although people can surprise us, may be I phrased it wrong but I was talking about the possibilities there not who is more likely
 

Horatio

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I don't think it is a publicity stunt either, although people can surprise us, may be I phrased it wrong but I was talking about the possibilities there not who is more likely

I don't believe its a publicity stunt either. I think the club considers the booing an issue that needs to be resolved as well and expressed their support to Gomes to address this issue if he feels the need to.
 
People consistently said the same exact thing about Andre Gomes as a means of somehow excusing how bad he is.

Real Madrid wanting a player should really not be used as some sort of gold star.

Jesus fucking christ we really helped RM dodge a bullet with his guy :lol: :facepalm:

Guess we owed them one for Danilo :lol:

All this proves to me is that we've been right all along, Gomes doesn't have what it takes to play for us. If I was getting booed at my work after consistently under performing despite doing my best, I'd go find a new job, which is exactly what Gomes needs to do.

At this point I think Gomes needs to sit in the stands until the end of the season. Not only is he bad, but he's now made it publicly known that he doesn't have the mental fortitude to perform. At least with Paulinho you can try to argue that he's just fatigued. As far as I'm concerned, Gomes shouldn't be counted on as part of the team any longer, and should be sold to a mid table or lower team in the summer, so he can play football without any pressure.

I think it's time to give his minutes to Alena. Gomes has basically come out and confirmed he's never going to improve because he can't cope with the pressure, so it's time to see if we can develop someone who can.

Also, Paulinho isn't a fucking crybaby. Do you see him whining about the shit he gets? No he takes it like a man and tries to prove the fans wrong. Mostly unsuccessfully, but hey.

I don't like his signing but I at least have to give him that much. He at least knows the magnitude of the opportunity he's been given and that it's on him to live up to it, not the other way round.

Neither of the two belong anywhere near Barca though.

I'm probably one of the most vocally critical people of him here, but I feel bad about his situation and fans should have some empathy.

He is terrible but it's not like it's something he can affect/change, something fans should know as we were never near good enough to become professionals no matter how hard we could've tried. And yes, everyday people do feel a lot of pressure/stress about things, it's not exclusive to Gomes. *However*, we have the luxury of not having all our shortcomings/failures be put under the spotlight for the whole world to see and have everyone go on at length about how shit we are at this or that. That's a huge difference and knowing that can eat away at your psyche. It's easy to talk when you've NEVER been under the public eye like that, I imagine it feels inescapable for them.

It's not even his fault he's playing that much, EV and Lucho should take serious flack for insisting on playing him time and time again when he's clearly not comfortable or good enough.

Having money is one thing, but your internal feeling of self worth is something else entirely which is what Gomes is struggling with right now. It takes much more mental strength/fortitude to play for Barca but you can't really shit on Gomes for not having it because 99% of people don't, including you and I, and we should be understanding of that. It's up to the club and the coach to sign/play players that are up to the task and not in way over their heads and that is where Barca and Lucho/EV have failed thoroughly with Gomes.

It's not his "fault" that we bought him or that his coaches play him so much, true, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a fucking crybaby.

We need to remember that the fans are the ones paying him millions of euros a year to watch him stink up the place. I don't agree with booing your own player during a crucial game but I can see where they were coming from.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
His problem is that the club and the fans aren't going to lower their expectations out of pity. So, he's the one who should rise above his own mental problems. The bar won't be set lower. He either performs at least to a somewhat acceptable level or not.

I do think the fans overreact though, by not giving him credit EVER, for anything. Although the guy must be doing at least some things right since Valverde trusts him as an option.
 
Jesus fucking christ we really helped RM dodge a bullet with his guy :lol: :facepalm:

Guess we owed them one for Danilo :lol:



Also, Paulinho isn't a fucking crybaby. Do you see him whining about the shit he gets? No he takes it like a man and tries to prove the fans wrong. Mostly unsuccessfully, but hey.

I don't like his signing but I at least have to give him that much. He at least knows the magnitude of the opportunity he's been given and that it's on him to live up to it, not the other way round.

Neither of the two belong anywhere near Barca though.



It's not his "fault" that we bought him or that his coaches play him so much, true, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a fucking crybaby.

We need to remember that the fans are the ones paying him millions of euros a year to watch him stink up the place. I don't agree with booing your own player during a crucial game but I can see where they were coming from.

Exactly, even though I think Paulinho is a horrendous player, there's no questioning his mental strength. We're talking about a guy who flopped terribly at Spurs and was forced into exile in China when he was 25, which is usually the peak of most player's careers. Most other players in his predicament would've let their heads drop, stopped giving it their all in training and matches and would've let their careers spiral downwards out of control.

Paulinho put his head down, worked hard and continued to play for Brazil. Even when we bought him the entire football world was laughing at us and barely anyone showed up for his presentation. While I still think he's a bad player, he managed to put some decent performances, has done more than most people expected and has carved out a role for himself on this team.

If Gomes had to endure what Paulinho had to he would've retired ten times by now.

I know different people deal with adversity and criticism differently and it's not Gomes' fault he collapses under pressure, but I just feel like this interview was a PR stunt. Gomes' reputation among fans has already improved significantly, people are starting hashtags for him on Twitter and saying we should cheer him no matter what. I don't doubt what he's saying is true, but Mendes has pulled off a great move for him.
 
Exactly, even though I think Paulinho is a horrendous player, there's no questioning his mental strength. We're talking about a guy who flopped terribly at Spurs and was forced into exile in China when he was 25, which is usually the peak of most player's careers. Most other players in his predicament would've let their heads drop, stopped giving it their all in training and matches and would've let their careers spiral downwards out of control.

Paulinho put his head down, worked hard and continued to play for Brazil. Even when we bought him the entire football world was laughing at us and barely anyone showed up for his presentation. While I still think he's a bad player, he managed to put some decent performances, has done more than most people expected and has carved out a role for himself on this team.

If Gomes had to endure what Paulinho had to he would've retired ten times by now.

I know different people deal with adversity and criticism differently and it's not Gomes' fault he collapses under pressure, but I just feel like this interview was a PR stunt. Gomes' reputation among fans has already improved significantly, people are starting hashtags for him on Twitter and saying we should cheer him no matter what. I don't doubt what he's saying is true, but Mendes has pulled off a great move for him.

I honestly have to commend Paulinho for how he handled it. Really makes it hard to hate him... until you watch him play :lol:
 

Much2soon

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I know it’s a bit of a stretch but maybe letting it all out can help him improve his performances....I know for some people letting out of all the stress et demons can benefit their mental state which Andre Gomes seems to be dealing with. Sort of makes me think, maybe that’s the reason for Messi ran towards and celebrated with him after the free kick against Atlético last week.
 

BarçaBarça

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All this proves to me is that we've been right all along, Gomes doesn't have what it takes to play for us. If I was getting booed at my work after consistently under performing despite doing my best, I'd go find a new job, which is exactly what Gomes needs to do.

At this point I think Gomes needs to sit in the stands until the end of the season. Not only is he bad, but he's now made it publicly known that he doesn't have the mental fortitude to perform. At least with Paulinho you can try to argue that he's just fatigued. As far as I'm concerned, Gomes shouldn't be counted on as part of the team any longer, and should be sold to a mid table or lower team in the summer, so he can play football without any pressure.

I think it's time to give his minutes to Alena. Gomes has basically come out and confirmed he's never going to improve because he can't cope with the pressure, so it's time to see if we can develop someone who can.

The ironic thing is that Alena seems to have that exact harshness and mental strength it takes to break through amidst pressure. With minutes he will have a greater chance at proving himself in the end, than many of our recent midfield-failures.
 

behindbrowneyes

Well-known member
I know it’s a bit of a stretch but maybe letting it all out can help him improve his performances....I know for some people letting out of all the stress et demons can benefit their mental state which Andre Gomes seems to be dealing with. Sort of makes me think, maybe that’s the reason for Messi ran towards and celebrated with him after the free kick against Atlético last week.

True. Gomes seems very well-integrated and I'm sure his teammates are aware of his problems in dealing with pressure. Going public with this is always the last resort.

It's up to the crowd now to give the right answer. Those who jeered him before will do it even louder now, but most of the crowd did not and it is up to them to encourage him with cheering. Everybody knows Gomes' Barcelona-career will come to an end soon, so let's make the best out of it and show that Barcelona is more than a club.
 

Barcilliant

Senior Member
I know it’s a bit of a stretch but maybe letting it all out can help him improve his performances....I know for some people letting out of all the stress et demons can benefit their mental state which Andre Gomes seems to be dealing with. Sort of makes me think, maybe that’s the reason for Messi ran towards and celebrated with him after the free kick against Atlético last week.

It's not only his mental strength that's lacking but his technical ability too. He's been thrown into the deep end and is finding it hard. He will be gone next season. Hopefully Man Utd pay us 30 million.
 

vlad

New member
Did he really open up about all that? It's a very strange and foolish thing to do...

The club, the players and the fans should be all over him like white on rice.

Who would want to buy him now? Nobody wants a player bereft of confidence who divulges these types of things to the media while he is still at said club.

I really can't believe I just read that! Stupidity doesn't even begin to describe what he just did.

I agree with that, you sort this things in private, club also have psychologist for that.

But this is just PR move "bu hu i cant deal with so much pressure please feel sorry for me" i really hope valverde will bench him until tge end of the season

It's not only his mental strength that's lacking but his technical ability too. He's been thrown into the deep end and is finding it hard. He will be gone next season. Hopefully Man Utd pay us 30 million.

But united is also a big club with a lot of pressure on players, why would they buy him after this comments from him, he basically closed all chances for barca to manage to sell him and earn some money.

What a stupid player
 

booge

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His problem is that the club and the fans aren't going to lower their expectations out of pity. So, he's the one who should rise above his own mental problems. The bar won't be set lower. He either performs at least to a somewhat acceptable level or not.

I do think the fans overreact though, by not giving him credit EVER, for anything. Although the guy must be doing at least some things right since Valverde trusts him as an option.

lol i love the way you wrote this @ His problem is that the club and the fans aren't going to lower their expectations out of pity. So, he's the one who should rise above his own mental problems. The bar won't be set lower.

Very vicious. I like it.
 

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