Andrés Iniesta

clemente

New member
great post Maz and since you ask for it.. here is what i think
IMO Iniesta will go down in history as one of the best hidden talents of his generation
the same way people forget Garrincha and remember Pele, the same way Ramon Diaz (bet many people didn't hear about him ) was crucified for god (Maradona to common people ) , Zola didn't get the light of day for Baggio till Zola moved later in his career to Cheslea ..etc
Iniesta grow on me.. i didn't notice him at first.. i was surprised when i read Pep said he will be better then Both himself & Xavi cause at first he didn't strike me anyone worth watching .. a good midfielder nothing more..
once again when i read some of Madrid candidates were thinking of paying his 50 Mil release clause in the last elections i was like "Wtf , he is not worth that much "
Iniesta problem he will never get the recognition beyond his own fans .. will always be second best in Barca, will always be over looked
At the same time it's one of his strongest points.. he is like an Assassin .. he comes out of nowhere, dribble with ease you feel like " nah he won't pull it, he won't shoot,he won't score " .. u keep that feeling going on even when its 2/3-0 for Barca
Personally what i noticed the most about Iniesta is his level of consistency .. u can have an off day from Messi to Rafa but not Iniesta.. coming back from Injury / coming from Int. duty.. u'll always get the same performance and the same level from that magical midget ..
Being a great player in the history of football ? i doubt it.. not because he is not worthy or his football is not WC but because Iniesta goes unnoticed he miss this Aura/presence of previous great players .
It's a personal thing about him , while Messi will dribble past 5-6 players to pass the ball to E2 , Iniesta will do the same job with less flashy moves/less time and the simplest of passes he fools everyone
for example Iniesta was impressive in the Euro.. everyone talked about Senna-Xavi -Torres-Villa-Iker.. it's the same for Barca.. the same for Pep who for Cule's is god.. for neutrals & outsiders just a good midfielder
I believe Iniesta will end up bigger then Pep but he won't reach the second batch of players.. not while Messi is here or Iniesta is still in Barca.. his game dictate his fame .. a simple lad who work for the group more then himself .. those players won't reach much in terms of Int. recognition
I'd take Iniesta to Madrid in a heart beat i admire him a lot especially the level of consistency he offer with his talents but i'm afraid he will never be a Zidane or Ronaldo ..sadly .
football legends needs talent & amazing goals.. that's what make people take notice of them.. all those legends u talk about had impressive goals /scored in big occasions/carried their team on their own
.. Iniesta would rather pass the ball in the same situation and give others the spot light ..so as much as they will be time when he will be worthy of Ballon D'or he will be overlooked... as i write this Iniesta do what i'm trying to explain .. one on one.. anyone would score.. Iniesta prefer to give to Messi to score Barca first goal.. classic Iniesta (Iniesta was offside for the record :) )
for the record Zidane would have ended the same way .. until WC 98 when his goals mattered Zidane started to push for goals a little more still preferring to pass but can score some out of this world goals when needed


Does anyone also sometimes go back in old posts to read what forum was thinking?
Its kinda cool how fans were talking about talents, development, hopes.
Now every post is about hatred towards Bartomeu :D
Funny how Iniesta was not worth 50m, or that Madrid tried to buy him, there was also people doubting Iniesta, reminds of some people randomly hating on Neymar
 
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khaled_a_d

Senior Member
His place is here.
When you say Barca, I think about him....not Messi.

I won't sell him, but I would be careful when renewing him and might accept that he will leave next year.
Sad thing to say, but it seem RM pragmatic philosophy of letting go their older players is working better
 

serghei

Senior Member
Iniesta might surprise a few dudes around here. Most seem to think he's a grandpa. Yet, he's only 1 year older than Modric. No reason why he can't have a great season if he doesn't get injured like last year.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Iniesta played more games at higher level in his career,he played in Liga and CL from the early start in his career while Modric started playing in EPL years later where he played very few games in CL.those things tend to have effects on players just like age. Rooney is younger than Modric but his leg carried more in younger years.
And every player body is different, Puyol was considered an iron man once until he was in his 30's, then he became a player you barely see because of injuries.
Those comparisons are just not valid. Right now it seems he is already one year late from moving to the bench.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Iniesta played more games at higher level in his career,he played in Liga and CL from the early start in his career while Modric started playing in EPL years later where he played very few games in CL.those things tend to have effects on players just like age. Rooney is younger than Modric but his leg carried more in younger years.
And every player body is different, Puyol was considered an iron man once until he was in his 30's, then he became a player you barely see because of injuries.
Those comparisons are just not valid. Right now it seems he is already one year late from moving to the bench.

Let's see that this season. Last season he was seriously injured vs Valencia. A bad ligaments injury. This season - hopefully with smart tactics, incresed motivation and no injuries - we can see in which degree he can be a difference maker for us, and in which degree he needs to be moved on the bench.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
Does anyone also sometimes go back in old posts to read what forum was thinking?
Its kinda cool how fans were talking about talents, development, hopes.
Now every post is about hatred towards Bartomeu :D
Funny how Iniesta was not worth 50m, or that Madrid tried to buy him, there was also people doubting Iniesta, reminds of some people randomly hating on Neymar

And that was from our legendary resident Real Madrid fan.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
He's not going anywhere this summer. Could see him leaving next year when his contract expires but that will depend on which midfielder we'll bring (if any) and what his role will be in Valverde's team. But I think EV knows Iniesta's importance to the team/club and will make him feel valuable even if he won't play as much. And for me that's the only reason Iniesta would consider leaving if/when he'll feel he can't help the team anymore. I don't see him leaving out of financial reasons.

Also, based on what he did with Aduriz who is even older I think EV can still get the best that Iniesta can still offer out of him.
 

JerseyAddict

Well-known member
. But I think EV knows Iniesta's importance to the team/club and will make him feel valuable even if he won't play as much

Also, based on what he did with Aduriz who is even older I think EV can still get the best that Iniesta can still offer out of him.

Exactly.
 

Hamzah

High Definition Member
What do you guys think of sticking iniesta out on left wing when Neymar leaves? He will be able to run less and not have to put in major defensive work.

Then let someone like coutinho take the central midfield spot
 

Cule4life

The Culest
What do you guys think of sticking iniesta out on left wing when Neymar leaves? He will be able to run less and not have to put in major defensive work.

Then let someone like coutinho take the central midfield spot

Dear God that's one of the worst ideas I've heard and we live in a world where Trump is the president.
 

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