Arda Turan

[serghei]

That last one is my personal favorite.

I miss the Arda brigade. We'll probably never see such a shit player have such a strong support here for years.

Trying to prove what exactly? Arda was before we signed him one of the best midfielders in La Liga. You have no idea what a shit player actually is. Last time I checked shit players don't lead teams to CL finals and win La Ligas.

 

[God Serena]

Trying to prove what exactly. Arda was before we signed him one of the best midfielders in La Liga. You have no idea what a shit player actually is. Last time I checked shit players don't lead teams to CL finals and win La Ligas.

Arda's mentality is a major thing that makes him as bad as he is and that was clear from very early on and he even directly stated his desire to work less is why he came. His contributions to Atletico don't change that.

 

[serghei]

Arda's mentality is a major thing that makes him as bad as he is and that was clear from very early on and he even directly stated his desire to work less is why he came. His contributions to Atletico don't change that.

His mentality was fine at Atletico. He declined. Simple as that. And, btw, Barca is not the ultimate test of a players' quality. You can be a good player and still fail at Barcelona for a variety of reasons. Turan is obviously a good player.

 

[God Serena]

His mentality was fine at Atletico. He declined. Simple as that. And, btw, Barca is not the ultimate test of a players' quality. You can be a good player and still fail at Barcelona for a variety of reasons. Turan is obviously a good player.

He literally said he left Atletico because he didn't want to run. He didn't just decline, he has a terrible mentality. He's just happy to be here. Whether Barca is the "ultimate test" or not, he's still the worst player on the squad by some distance and his mentality is the main driving force behind that. Atletico is completely irrelevant to that.

 

[serghei]

He literally said he left Atletico because he didn't want to run. He didn't just decline, he has a terrible mentality. He's just happy to be here. Whether Barca is the "ultimate test" or not, he's still the worst player on the squad by some distance and his mentality is the main driving force behind that. Atletico is completely irrelevant to that.

He probably meant that he doesn't have to run as much as with Atletico because Barca is more in control of the ball than Atletico. There is some truth in that (if you don't have the ball you have to run more to cover the field and close the gaps), but it was mostly misunderstood.

He's not even close to being the worst player in the squad. But he's 30, on high wages and is a player in decline.

 

[Arkk]

That last one is my personal favorite.

I miss the Arda brigade. We'll probably never see such a shit player have such a strong support here for years.

don't worry soon we'll probably see the Gomes brigade

 

[God Serena]

He probably meant that he doesn't have to run as much as with Atletico because Barca is more in control of the ball than Atletico. There is some truth in that (if you don't have the ball you have to run more to cover the field and close the gaps), but it was mostly misunderstood.

He's not even close to being the worst player in the squad. But he's 30, on high wages and is a player in decline.

Considering he went from running nonstop and being a warrior for Atletico to being noticeably lazy and giving little effort most of the time he was out there and couldn't even be arsed to give an effort against 3rd division opponents I'm inclined to think his comments weren't misunderstood at all.

Who in the squad in 2016/17 was worse? The only player I can think of who comes anywhere close is Mathieu.

 

[Jombi]

Considering he went from running nonstop and being a warrior for Atletico to being noticeably lazy and giving little effort most of the time he was out there and couldn't even be arsed to give an effort against 3rd division opponents I'm inclined to think his comments weren't misunderstood at all.

Who in the squad in 2016/17 was worse? The only player I can think of who comes anywhere close is Mathieu.

Simeone makes several players look better than they really are with his system. Arda is just being exposed in Barca.

 

[Alik]

That last one is my personal favorite.

I miss the Arda brigade. We'll probably never see such a shit player have such a strong support here for years.

Funny to see this after you trying to lecture me on hindsight!

 

[springfield]

People usually reply: in the current market.

But, the thing is, NOT all players are inflated.
Or, NOT all players are inflated equally.

For example, if 5 years ago, CR7 was worth 100M, today he is worth, let's say 200 or 250.
The same as Neymar.
So, the price for TOP PLAYERS have doubled or tripled.
So, yes, we have an inflation here.

Also, players whom TOP teams are interested in like Bellerin, Semedo, Keita, Seri, Verratti=are inflated also.
Players like Bellerin and Semedo were worth 15-25M a few years ago.
Today they are worth 50-60M.

On the other hand, crap or average players in whom no one is interested=are not inflated.
Or, in best case, their price is only 1-2 Millions higher than a few years ago.

So, if Neymar's price jumped from 80-100 Millions to 200-250 Millions, on the other hand, a price of Douglas, Montoya, Bojan Krkic, Tello and other guys is NOT inflated.
No one wanted Tello, Montoya or Douglas 5 years ago. And the same is today.
So, if Tello was worth 8-10 Millions a few years ago, his price HASN'T jumped to 20-25, because of "current market".
Tello was an average player whom no one wanted both 3 years ago and today.
His price was 8-10M both 5 years ago and today.

So, again, people shouldn't reply: if Semedo is worth 50M, then Rafinha is worth 30M.
Well, he isn't.
Supply and demand.

TOP teams are interested in Semedo (Barca, Man Utd and similar) and we are willing to pay (or to overpay) 50-60 Millions.
On the other hand, who on Earth is interested in Rafinha?
Real, Psg, Man Utd, City?
He is not good enough for top teams.
And he is not good enough for TOP and RICH teams.

He is good enough for 2nd or 3rd tier teams who don't have money and who usually buy players worth 1-10 Millions (like Celta, Valencia and similar).
So, again, Rafinha can't be worth 30 Millions since teams who are able to spend 30M for a midfielder are not interested in Rafinha (Real, Bayern, City, Liverpool).
And teams who ARE interested in him can spend 10 to 15M max.
So, a price which we can get for Rafinha is 10-15M, and NOT 30M.

The same applies for Arda and other guys.
Who on Earth will buy 30 years old out of form and declining Arda and pay his insane wages?
If we get 15M for him, that will be the biggest gift in the world.

In short: "current market" isn't inflating prices of every single player in the world, but mostly prices of players in whom top10 and 2nd tier rich European teams are interested in.

It's not about inflation at all. It's just how the free market works and because of the more club take overs by rich investors.

 

[DonAK]

We need to sell this guy. I'd take any offer as low as 25m. for him.

Would be difficult, especially when his agent is saying he'll stay and he himself reportedly don't want to leave.

If he leaves for some other team, he'll most likely have to take a paycut as no other team will pay him that much money when he's declining rapidly and knocking senior journalists out for writing a true story about his greediness.

This was a bad idea from the start in terms of fit, but Arda took it a step further with his poor attitude. Could have made it somehow, but his attitude destroyed that hope too.

Meanwhile, it's good that we're considering adding another Arda to the team in Paulinho. Why sign younger players like Isco when you can dish it out on Ardas and Paulinhos

Gomes being the only young midfield signing and even he might not be the best fit and would need a significant next season to have any future at Barca.

 

[Egert]

FC Barcelona will only listen to offers for Arda Turan (30) above €65M. Turan wants to stay at the club and fight for a place. [fanatik]

 

[God Serena]

I think I'm gonna be sick.

 

[reaper]

FC Barcelona will only listen to offers for Arda Turan (30) above €65M. Turan wants to stay at the club and fight for a place. [fanatik]

Translation: There have been zero offers on Arda from anyone.

The good news is I know Valverde quite well. Gomes and Arda are going to have a nasty season. He is not sentimental for crap the way Lucho was.

 

[Albo]

Translation: There have been zero offers on Arda from anyone.

The good news is I know Valverde quite well. Gomes and Arda are going to have a nasty season. He is not sentimental for crap the way Lucho was.

You know him irl or have watched his coaching methods a lot?