Arda Turan

[God Serena]

You don't rely on your bench players to play against strong sides like Real Madrid. Yes he screwed up, but if the starters can't beat Real Madrid, it is their fault first and foremost.

Our starters were winning against Real Madrid, in case you're forgetting how the game went.

If we can't rely on the multi hat trick hero in the last five minutes of a game when his only instructions are "Don't foul" then he's useless, sorry. Rafinha or Denis would have been able to do the job in that time and most of you Arda supporters would like to say Arda is better than both of them.

 

[serghei]

Our starters were winning against Real Madrid, in case you're forgetting how the game went.

If we can't rely on the multi hat trick hero in the last five minutes of a game when his only instructions are "Don't foul" then he's useless, sorry. Rafinha or Denis would have been able to do the job in that time and most of you Arda supporters would like to say Arda is better than both of them.

If Neymar and Messi score in 1 vs 1 with Navas it's game over. So stop finding the scapegoat with Turan. Everyone said he made a mess with that foul, but going from that to saying he lost us the game is a long long long way. We could have won that game several times in that 2nd half. There were some key moments where we made some mistakes, Neymar's miss, Messi's miss, Arda's foul and the poor marking for Ramos' header. All of those moments where we didn't focuse enough cost us the 3 pts. in the end.

 

[FlaFCB]

If Neymar and Messi score in 1 vs 1 with Navas it's game over. So stop finding the scapegoat with Turan. Everyone said he made a mess with that foul, but going from that to saying he lost us the game is a long long long way. We could have won that game several times in that 2nd half. There were some key moments where we made some mistakes, Neymar's miss, Messi's miss, Arda's foul and the poor marking for Ramos' header. All of those moments where we didn't focuse enough cost us the 3 pts. in the end.

Sure, those 2 misses cost too. But in that moment of the game, match ending, and only 1-0, players need to be more careful. He was even instructed explicitly to not commit a foul. And yet he did it, and an unecessary one. Hard to give a pass on that.

 

[serghei]

Sure, those 2 misses cost too. But in that moment of the game, match ending, and only 1-0, players need to be more careful. He was even instructed explicitly to not commit a foul. And yet he did it, and an unecessary one. Hard to give a pass on that.

No one gave him a pass. Everyone blamed him for the foul and said it was stupid and reckless. Still doesn't mean his mistake cost us the game more than Messi's and especially Neymar's miss, which was as close to a sitter as you get in a clasico. A game is not won or lost in a single play.

 

[Keki]

i don't think most so called supporters understand , even if he did go to China figures been mentioned is his salary (4.42 million GBP + barca paying year ) and Chinese are offering him 30 million euros a year salary , so i can see what is there to get excited about, at best we probably get our money back , if that's the case we got lot dead wood to clear before Arda , which i doubt very much we get our money back .

http://www.sport-english.com/en/new...y-barcelona-despite-chinese-overtures-5718585

 

[God Serena]

If Neymar and Messi score in 1 vs 1 with Navas it's game over. So stop finding the scapegoat with Turan. Everyone said he made a mess with that foul, but going from that to saying he lost us the game is a long long long way. We could have won that game several times in that 2nd half. There were some key moments where we made some mistakes, Neymar's miss, Messi's miss, Arda's foul and the poor marking for Ramos' header. All of those moments where we didn't focuse enough cost us the 3 pts. in the end.

One thing I never understood is how football fans can blame their forwards for dropped points because of missed chances, but totally ignore missed chances from the other side. Misses that happened 30+ minutes ago are irrelevant to the fact that Arda conceded an idiotic foul that put us in an incredibly dangerous position against one of the best last minute set piece teams in the world, in the final minutes of the game, after being subbed on to defend our lead, with specific instructions not to foul, when a foul wasn't even necessary because the man with the ball was triple marked. Yes, the marking was poor for Ramos's header. But we wouldn't have had to worry about Ramos getting a header in our box in the first place if Arda had a fucking brain.

He was signed to be reinforcement for a midfield that is clearly struggling and he's shown every time he's played there that he's incompetent. He plays well at LW but aside from early season when Neymar was out his presence there has not actually been needed. We could have easily gotten by Leverkusen or Hercules with even a player like Adama or Tello playing LW. He isn't playing at a level to justify his price tag or his wage and only serves as a potential option to ruin our midfield when Lucho decides he needs charity minutes but Neymar is available to play.

 

[FlaFCB]

No one gave him a pass. Everyone blamed him for the foul and said it was stupid and reckless. Still doesn't mean his mistake cost us the game more than Messi's and especially Neymar's miss, which was as close to a sitter as you get in a clasico. A game is not won or lost in a single play.

Many people gave him a pass. And yes, his mistake cost more, for all the little things involved there.

 

[TornAndFrayed]

How is that even a question. Turan made a purposeless challenge and didn't fucking move on the following set piece.

 

[Vilarrubi]

I like Andre Gomes as well, and think he can be an amazing midfielder for us. In fact, I wouldn't sell any player after less than two seasons at the club, unles it is absolutely clear that there is no room for improvement. Gomes shows plenty of good signs so I would personally rule out any scenario that ends up with us selling him before 2018.

There is a massive problem with us as a club if we start to sell players after barely getting used to the club and with what it meas to be playing for Barcelona. 5 months is not enough time for a young player to make an impact at a club like Barcelona. Look at the Barcaforum darling Isco. 3 years of being a sub. at Madrid. You don't sell players until you're absolutely sure they can't improve and be part of your team in the future. Take notice that Gomes is 22 and played in the clasico 3 months after being signed, and I don't think he had a bad game at all.

Madrid is not ready to break up with Isco even after 3 seasons. They still think he might be part of the first 11 sometime in the future. This frenzy of selling and buying at a crazy rate is not good for the club at all.

Personally Gomes hasn't shown me anything that stands out. A few passes but no attacking threat and quite poor defensively.. even Denis has been much better.

Isco's role at Madrid is the same as Arda's at the moment, both them and the clubs accept that they are squad players and start in some games but not in the first 11..

Gomes on the other hand with the big fee is seemingly being pushed into that starting 11 role in the 17 games he's played so far for us he's been really average.

You only have to look back on the first pages of Rakitic's thread when he started for us to see the difference...

Rakitic quickly becoming an irreplaceable feature for this team. Hard to fathom he has only played in like 4 official games so far. Unreal!

 

[Keki]

WOW he fouled , strikers miss sitters - Arda commits only foul of the game - defenders don't mark up - keeper can't save it so it's totally Arda's fault ,are you guy's for real ,anyone would of thought he gave away a penalty for god sake , what a joke

 

[FlaFCB]

WOW he fouled , strikers miss sitters - Arda commits only foul of the game - defenders don't mark up - keeper can't save it so it's totally Arda's fault ,are you guy's for real ,anyone would of thought he gave away a penalty for god sake , what a joke

Reckless foul, that wasn't needed, as marcelo had his back to the goal, in the dying minutes of a game that was only 1-0. Yes, it was his fault. Even more so because the coach told him to not commit fouls. And he also didn't help one bit in defending that set piece. He actually fired ramos up with that little fight before the foul was taken.

 

[Keki]

Reckless foul, that wasn't needed, as marcelo had his back to the goal, in the dying minutes of a game that was only 1-0. Yes, it was his fault. Even more so because the coach told him to not commit fouls. And he also didn't help one bit in defending that set piece. He actually fired ramos up with that little fight before the foul was taken.

no one knows what lucho said to him , so what we scared of firing up opposition defender , what a laugh

 

[God Serena]

no one knows what lucho said to him , so what we scared of firing up opposition defender , what a laugh

Lucho himself said he told Arda not to foul but you wouldn't know that because you're not actually following the club.

 

[God Serena]

WOW he fouled

Yes, he did.

, strikers miss sitters -

Anyone who really wants to try and deflect the blame onto MSN for missing chances has got to be incredibly deluded or just blinded by fanboyism to recognize just how awful a decision Arda's foul was.

Arda commits only foul of the game

That wasn't the only foul of the game, nor was it Arda's only foul. It was just the most stupid.

- defenders don't mark up -

Yeah! It's not Arda's fault for giving away a stupid foul, it's the defense's fault for not covering for him!

keeper can't save it so it's totally Arda's fault

Another fanboy trying to somehow blame Mats. If your grammar wasn't so atrocious I'd swear you were [MENTION=15262]serghei[/MENTION]'s alt account.

,are you guy's for real ,anyone would of thought he gave away a penalty for god sake , what a joke

He basically did give away a penalty.

 

[FlaFCB]

no one knows what lucho said to him , so what we scared of firing up opposition defender , what a laugh

Did you even watch the match? Arda was picking a fight with ramos before they took the fk. And yes, lucho told the press right after the game he had instructed arda not to foul. What a laugh, huh?