Arda Turan

[serghei]

If we receive a 50m offer, we tell Arda we're prepared to let him go. Then it is his decision. I wager he'll take the offer. Will give him financial security for the life after football too in his last years.

Solved.

Alexis rejected a big offer from Man City to join Barca. That's a guy who turned back when he got to know he was going to board a plane to Manchester.

And I bet if it had been upto him, he would have stayed at Barcelona too. Why would a big Barca fan want to leave, especially for an Arsenal that showed a lack of ambition for so many years? Nope. He was sold so we could sign Suarez.

Sure it's different. Arsenal v China. But Arda will be 30 soon too.

If the club tells Arda they have received a big offer and want to sell him, then I don't see him forcing a stay when he can secure his future by playing a couple of years in Shanghai.

Arda might be a decent LW backup, but you gotta be kidding if you don't think this guy has been a disappointment. 34 + 7m for a LW backup who can't play in the MF is bad when taking his age into account too. 50-60m would be a great deal for us.

Well, if Lucho likes him that means we are not prepared to let him go. I would let him go for that sum, sure, but from Arda's pov being a squad player at Barca for 6m a year is better than playing in China for 12 or whatever. 6m a year is a lot if money as well. And you're right, there's no comparison between Arsenal and PL, and Ghuanzgou Shenzang from China. Anyway, Lucho holds most of the cards. He is the only one who can tell wich player is needed and which isn't.

Of course the Arda deal is a poor one for Barcelona because we didn't sign him to be a LW backup. He can of course turn it around if something happens with Neymar and Turan wins the CL and or La Liga being a starter LW, or comes in as a sub and pulls a Larsson or something, being a key player in a title winning campaign. Not very likely of course. But every team makes great deals and poorer deals. No point to dramatize a really common thing in football. Win some, lose some. It's like that with transfers.

We made a lot of poorer transfers than Turan as well. So I certainly don't think it's the worst deal in history, although seeing some of the crazy reactions here one might get that impression.

 

[Dan1983]

He'll be gone in the summer.

 

[gasgas]

I am patiently waiting for the day Lucho returns him to midfield

 

[Jombi]

People get all worked up after a couple of hat tricks in glorified friendlies, claiming he is a perfect LW. He was bad last game against the worst team in the league playing LW. If that performance had been in midfield, we would see a totally different reaction.

 

[serghei]

People get all worked up after a couple of hat tricks in glorified friendlies, claiming he is a perfect LW. He was bad last game against the worst team in the league playing LW. If that performance had been in midfield, we would see a totally different reaction.

You are blinded by hate my friend if you don't see that he is very good at LW. His only problem is that he competes for that spot with a player who is superior in every way, and that is why I'd sell him for a 30m+.

 

[Jombi]

You are blinded by hate my friend if you don't see that he is very good at LW. His only problem is that he competes for that spot with a player who is superior in every way, and that is why I'd sell him for a 30m+.

He was good against a third division side, big deal. He would have been good in any position in those glorified friendlies. He was bad in his last game at LW. Its silly to even reject an offer of 10m for Arda. His wage is that of a star but he is an average player.

 

[Alik]

He was good against a third division side, big deal. He would have been good in any position in those glorified friendlies. He was bad in his last game at LW. Its silly to even reject an offer of 10m for Arda. He's wage is that of a star but he is an average player.

Arda has been one of the best performers, or best, in most of the matches he's played at LW. He's had a good season in that position. Yes, he often played against weaker sides, but so did 10 other players.

From the stats thread:

01.Spanish Supercup - 1st leg
Sevilla 0 - 2 FC Barcelona
Goals: Suarez, Munir
Assists: Arda, Messi
YC: Suarez

02.Spanish Supercup - 2nd leg
FC Barcelona 3 - 0 Sevilla
Goals: Arda(2), Messi
Assists: Messi, Digne
YC: Umtiti

03.Lliga - Round 01
FC Barcelona 6 - 2 Real Betis
Goals: Arda, Messi(2), Suarez(3)
Assists: Alba, Roberto(2), Messi, Arda
YC: Suarez

04.Lliga - Round 02
Athletic Club 0 - 1 FC Barcelona
Goal: Rakitic
Assist: Arda
YC: Umtiti, Busquets, Suarez, Roberto

09.Lliga - Round 06
Sporting Gijon 0 - 5 FC Barcelona
Goals: Suarez, Rafinha, Neymar(2), Arda
Assists: Arda, Roberto(2), Denis

10.UCL - GS - Round 02
Borussia M. 1 - 2 FC Barcelona
Goals: Arda, Pique
Assist: Neymar
YC: Mascherano, Pique, Neymar

23.UCL - GS - Round 06
FC Barcelona 4 - 0 Borussia M.
Goals: Messi, Arda(3)
Assists: Arda, Vidal, Paco

26.Cdr - Round of 16
FC Barcelona 7 - 0 Hercules
Goals: Digne, Rakitic, Rafinha, Arda(3), Paco
Assists: Rafinha, Arda, Vidal
YC: Vidal

So aside from scoring vs Hercules, he has scored and assisted plenty of times against first division opponents, ending up as our third highest goal scorer and assist maker.

Furthermore, he has the second highest number of gold medals and third highest number of points, as voted in out motm threads. That's despite not being a starter.

 

[Jombi]

So aside from scoring vs Hercules, he has scored and assisted plenty of times against first division opponents, ending up as our third highest goal scorer and assist maker.

Furthermore, he has the second highest number of gold medals and third highest number of points, as voted in out motm threads. That's despite not being a starter.

The expectations are rock bottom for Arda from a lot of people. He was horrendous in his first 6 months and has been bad this season. Thats an improvement. People judge players based on two things mostly; expectations and goals, not objectivity. Arda happens to have rock bottom expectations and has scored quite a lot of tap ins.

 

[Alik]

Irrelevant. The expectations are rock bottom for Arda from a lot of people. He was horrendous in his first 6 months and has been bad this season. Thats an improvement. People judge players based on two things mostly; expectations and goals, not objectivity. Arda happens to have rock bottom expectations and has scored quite a lot of tap ins.

How is it irrelevant? I have given you my points, yet you give nothing to justify your opinion for saying Arda has been bad this season, and accuse others of not being objective.

He has scored tap ins, but he has also scored good amount of downright beautiful goals and provided some crucial assists too.

Right now Arda is suffering from the fallout of his half season in Barça, which has indeed been terrible (albeit, again, largely influenced by being played in the wrong position).

 

[God Serena]

How is it irrelevant? I have given you my points, yet you give nothing to justify your opinion for saying Arda has been bad this season, and accuse others of not being objective.

He has scored tap ins, but he has also scored good amount of downright beautiful goals and provided some crucial assists too.

Right now Arda is suffering from the fallout of his half season in Barça, which has indeed been terrible (albeit, again, largely influenced by being played in the wrong position).

That "wrong position" is the position he was signed to help us in. When Rafinha got injured we tried to register Arda to take his place in midfield.

Arda was signed to be a superstar addition to our midfield but he's just a semi decent backup at LW.

 

[Jombi]

How is it irrelevant? I have given you my points, yet you give nothing to justify your opinion for saying Arda has been bad this season, and accuse others of not being objective.

He has scored tap ins, but he has also scored good amount of downright beautiful goals and provided some crucial assists too.

Right now Arda is suffering from the fallout of his half season in Barça, which has indeed been terrible (albeit, again, largely influenced by being played in the wrong position).

I wouldnt say Arda is suffering from his horrendous first 6 months. He is benefiting from it in terms of expectations. As people are satisfied with any half decent performance from him. The lower the expectations, the higher his performances are rated. Arda has been bad this season. I have higher expectations than a tiny number of decent games. This idea that only LW is his position is also under constant evaluation. It was said that he just needed time to be a good midfielder, then that argument was dropped and then it was said by his fans until a couple of months ago that he was great at RW and LW. Then he played a few crappy RW games and now we are left with LW that is supposed to be his position. He is not Barca quality and certainly does not defend his wage.

 

[Zebulun]

i can't believe there are people who defend Turan in BF but wanted Pedro gone and want neymar to leave, just shocking.

 

[gasgas]

Arda hasn't been bad

He has been very good


But if we are to consider his fee, age, experience, hype. He hasn't delivered as expected

 

[Barcilliant]

The hate here is overboard.

He is a squad player here not a starter. I find his inconsistency frustrating too but he has scored goals and if Neymar wasn't an overhyped Brazilian Arda would probably have the LW spot.

 

[God Serena]

The hate here is overboard.

He is a squad player here not a starter. I find his inconsistency frustrating too but he has scored goals and if Neymar wasn't an overhyped Brazilian Arda would probably have the LW spot.

Neymar is only a starter because of hype! Arda has two hat tricks in three games!!!