Arsenal

[S7_MUFC]

Ok, LOL!

so according to you Flamini and Arteta are ALOT better than Ramires and Lampard??? and Giroud and Bendtner are better than Eto'o, Torres and Ba??? I dont think so! Arsenal have had the easiest opening 8 games and are still only 2 points ahead of Chelsea! who have already played against Man United, Spurs and Everton AWAY! and have Man City next week!

Chelsea are alot better than Arsenal! Chelsea have a much stronger squad! and have better character than Arsenal! Chelsea have a winning mentality! when Arsenal start losing games they will crumble as always! this season will be 2 horse race, Chelsea v Man City, Arsenal will be fighting with United, Spurs and Liverpool to finish top 4!

I was thinking about Wilshire and Arteta/Flamini when writing that and chelsea midfielders lack creativity and they don't move the ball quickly.....and Giroud has been in terrific form for them and the advantage of having 3 strikers is insignificant when you play with a single striker...

 

[Semi-Neutral]

Easiest opening games? What are you smoking? Spurs, Swansea, Stoke, West Brom, Aston Villa are all tough games, and it's not easy to beat any one of those teams, as you yourself can attest to. As for "winner's mentality" and "better character", is that why you lost to Basel and Everton and drew against the 8th place team who lost to a lot of the teas we've beaten?

 

[Luftstalag14]

We have been much less of a possession based team this season, turning into more of a counter attacking team which quick (accurate) passing, quick and clever movement, one touch football and good defensive organisation.

It's working arty1:

How I wish we (Barca) could do the same! We are too slow, often letting the opportunities slip by just like that.

Envy!

 

[Superfly]

I know I shouldn't argue with KingLeo and his blatant delusional views towards Chelsea but I couldn't help myself.

Arsenal have a better defense, better midfield, better striker, and better manager than Chelsea.

Mertesacker and Koscielny are arguably one, if not, the best CB partnerships in the league.

Ramires/Lampard/Essien/Whoever are easily the worst CM pairing(s) out of the top clubs in the Prem. Not even close to Arteta/Flamini/Wilshere/Ramsey's level.

Eto'o, Ba, Torres better than Giroud those three have one goal between them all season compared to Giroud's 6.

 

[Galning]

I know I shouldn't argue with KingLeo and his blatant delusional views towards Chelsea but I couldn't help myself.

You noob, you are getting into an argument with the man who for the past two seasons said Torres would win the golden boot.

 

[Ketoth]

I think Chelsea will be our biggest rivals for the title. They have a very good defence and against the big teams Mourinho will have his Chelsea set up to be impossible to break down and nick the goals on set pieces or the counter attack. We have seen this against Manu and Spurs already.
I am not worried about City we generally play well against them and they will be inconsistent. They have good depth in the striker position but not elsewhere.
The title race will be between Arsenal and Chelsea.

 

[kingleo]

Easiest opening games? What are you smoking? Spurs, Swansea, Stoke, West Brom, Aston Villa are all tough games, and it's not easy to beat any one of those teams, as you yourself can attest to. As for "winner's mentality" and "better character", is that why you lost to Basel and Everton and drew against the 8th place team who lost to a lot of the teas we've beaten?

yes easiest opening games! Arsenal's toughest away games have been against Swansea and West Brom, whereas Chelsea's toughest away games have been against Man U, Everton and Spurs, see the difference? and next weekend Chelsea play against Man City and guess who Arsenal have got? Crystal Palace! you cant really get a much easier 9 games then that!

and as for winning mentality and better character! i was referring more to the fact that Chelsea win trophies almost every season for the last 10 years!! and actually know how to win trophies, and dont collapse when things are going wrong! when was the last time Arsenal won anything??? i rest my case!

 

[Semi-Neutral]

and as for winning mentality and better character! i was referring more to the fact that Chelsea win trophies almost every season for the last 10 years!! and actually know how to win trophies, and dont collapse when things are going wrong! when was the last time Arsenal won anything??? i rest my case!

The only thing you've won through mentality was the CL, the rest was because you had a Russian sugar daddy come in and splash the cash on a dozen players. And Arsenal collapse when things go wrong? We've managed to somehow get into the top four after having things go wrong for a few seasons in a row now, we do the exact opposite of that.

As for fixtures, West Brom are currently harder to beat than United, with the likes of Oscar, Hazard and Mata you should be walking all over United's midfield, instead you bunker down for a 0-0 draw against a team who are undergoing radical change and have 3 players performing well at the moment. And using excuses like "we were away" for a loss against Everton isn't something a title contender would say. And, again, why do you ignore the CL, last season our slapping around of Bayern was what turned our campaign around and let us finish 4th, it affects the EPL in a big way.

I'd like some evidence for why Ramires/Lampard/Essien/Mikel is a better midfield than Ramsey(currently best midfielder in EPL)/Flamini/Arteta/Wilshere, and why Chelsea's CB pairing is better than ours as well.

 

[pEllee]

I'd like some evidence for why Ramires/Lampard/Essien/Mikel is a better midfield than Ramsey(currently best midfielder in europe)/Flamini/Arteta/Wilshere, and why Chelsea's CB pairing is better than ours as well.

Fixed.

 

[coura]

How I wish we (Barca) could do the same! We are too slow, often letting the opportunities slip by just like that.

Envy!

How does that work against parked buses?

 

[kingleo]

The only thing you've won through mentality was the CL, the rest was because you had a Russian sugar daddy come in and splash the cash on a dozen players. And Arsenal collapse when things go wrong? We've managed to somehow get into the top four after having things go wrong for a few seasons in a row now, we do the exact opposite of that.

As for fixtures, West Brom are currently harder to beat than United, with the likes of Oscar, Hazard and Mata you should be walking all over United's midfield, instead you bunker down for a 0-0 draw against a team who are undergoing radical change and have 3 players performing well at the moment. And using excuses like "we were away" for a loss against Everton isn't something a title contender would say. And, again, why do you ignore the CL, last season our slapping around of Bayern was what turned our campaign around and let us finish 4th, it affects the EPL in a big way.

I'd like some evidence for why Ramires/Lampard/Essien/Mikel is a better midfield than Ramsey(currently best midfielder in EPL)/Flamini/Arteta/Wilshere, and why Chelsea's CB pairing is better than ours as well.

you clearly don't understand what winning mentality means do you? why do think Arsenal collapsed against Birmingham in the Carling Cup a few years back? they don't know how to win trophies! that's why.

the fact that your still trying to convince yourself that Arsenal's opening fixtures have not been much easier than any other big teams is very funny!

I agree that Ramsey has been very good this season, but Ramsey didn't even make Arsenal's starting XI yesterday! when everyone is fit he wont even start games! LOL!

here are a few stats for you!

Ramires (60%), Mikel (68%) and Lampard (62%) all win more balls in midfield then Flamini (52%), Wilshere (52%) and Arteta (43%)
Ramires (86%), Mikel (92%) and Lampard (85%) all have better passing averages than your supposed best passer Jack Wilshere (83%)!
not only does Ramires win more balls in midfield then Arteta and Flamini he also creates way more chances!!! Ramires (11), Arteta (2), Flamini (2)

Also last time i checked Chelsea have conceded less goals then Arsenal also!

so where's your evidence? let me guess, the Arsenal players are better because they are top of the league right? just wait and see where both teams finish in May!

 

[Semi-Neutral]

I agree that Ramsey has been very good this season, but Ramsey didn't even make Arsenal's starting XI yesterday! when everyone is fit he wont even start games! LOL!

He "didn't make the starting XI" not because he's not good, but because we have the most important game of our season so far next week, and he played two internationals, so Wenger felt he could be rested against Norwich. And as for him not starting when everyone's fit...

I'm not trying to say Arsenal have harder fixtures, I'm trying to say that winning those fixtures is still impressive, as Chelsea didn't win games it was the favorite in, while we did. And winning the ball in midfield means nothing to me, that's Chelsea's defensive style at work, they want their midfielders to win the ball in the middle.

As for statistics, Ramsey has more goals and the same number of assists as Ramires, Lampard and Mikel combined, and almost has more tackles per game than any two of them combined. Wilshere and Ramires have the same number of goals and assists, even with Wilshere playing poorly until the second half of last game, Arteta has played three games so of course Ramires has created more chances, and Flamini's role isn't to create chances, but to defend, and he has more interceptions, clearances, and blocked shots, and commits less fouls and is dribbled less.

 

[pEllee]

How does that work against parked buses?

It works by letting your opponents have the ball...it's Barca's own fault that most team "park the bus". Barca want to press high, they don't want their opponents to have the ball, so of course they won't be able to counter. If you depend a bit deeper, let your opponents have some of the ball and play "quicker" football you'll get plenty of chances to counter.

Don't blame the opponents, blame Barca.

 

[Raed]

It's not just about the big teams. Dispatching the smaller teams on a consistent basis is also the stuff of champions and we've done that very well so far.

Man U won the league by steamrolling all the small clubs and fucking up the big games, so if Arsenal can win a few big games and continue to win against the small teams, the league is yours.

I already declared on Twitter that I am going to jump on the Arsenal bandwagon 1 second before the referee blows his whistle to crown Arsenal title winners.

 

[AnfieldEd]

I actually agree completely with kingleo.










Now I have to take cold shower.