Arsenal

[JamDav1982]

Ramsey and Giroud are currently performing better than the players you mentioned, even though they might not be better players as such. Ramsey for example is, as of now, the best performing player in the league, you cannot deny it.
As for Özil, yes, he's a better player than any of those in your list.

Youbare basing far too much on the opening fixtures of the league season where Arsenal have had an easy run.

Ozil is top class clearly, Ramsey has been in great form but Giroud is nowhere near one of the top strikers in the league.

 

[kingleo]

Ramsey and Giroud are currently performing better than the players you mentioned, even though they might not be better players as such. Ramsey for example is, as of now, the best performing player in the league, you cannot deny it.
As for Özil, yes, he's a better player than any of those in your list.

How did i know someone would change it and say currently the best 3! (which still isn't true) I would say Oscar and Aguero have been performing better than Giroud! also I would say that Oscar has been better than Ozil and Ramsey also.

 

[suckabov]

Youbare basing far too much on the opening fixtures of the league season where Arsenal have had an easy run.

Ozil is top class clearly, Ramsey has been in great form but Giroud is nowhere near one of the top strikers in the league.

No, I'm just saying that Ramsey and Giroud have performed better than the players in his list so far, in the EPL. That's an objective statement - the stats show it. I said nothing about the quality of the opponent. If you think one has to do that, do it, but I think it's a little hard to do (based on what ground do you weigh that?).

It did not say those two are better players - for me, Özil is the best player in the league. Ramsey is still very young and developing; any statements about him as a player are a little premature. What you can talk about is his potential and his performances, and those have been better than anyone else's. I don't think Giroud is among the best players in the EPL either, but performance-wise, he is.

That is why the rating 1) Ramsey 2) Özil 3) Giroud is justified.

 

[JamDav1982]

No, I'm just saying that Ramsey and Giroud have performed better than the players in his list so far, in the EPL. That's an objective statement - the stats show it. I said nothing about the quality of the opponent. If you think one has to do that, do it, but I think it's a little hard to do (based on what ground do you weigh that?).

It did not say those two are better players - for me, Özil is the best player in the league. Ramsey is still very young and developing; any statements about him as a player are a little premature. What you can talk about is his potential and his performances, and those have been better than anyone else's. I don't think Giroud is among the best players in the EPL either, but performance-wise, he is.

That is why the rating 1) Ramsey 2) Özil 3) Giroud is justified.

I wouldnt say Ramsey or Giroud have been as good as Yaya Toure to be honest, he has been all round better than those two and against better teams.

Toure and Ozil have been the best two players in the EPL this season.

 

[BXI Fútbol]

It is ridiculous to say anyone in the league is currently (that is, so far this season) performing better than Ramsey. Arsenal fan or enemy, this is just the way it is.

It will hurt many who like to buy into the football media's narrative but Wenger is in my (justified) opinion the best manager in England, and Özil, who was already incredible at Madrid, will only improve in a system suited to him and a manager suited to him as well.

 

[suckabov]

also I would say that Oscar has been better than Ozil and Ramsey also.

How? As I said, Özil has the best minute / chance created ratio in Europe, third most created chances in the league (after Silva and Hazard), 3 goals and 4 assists. And how has he been performing better than Ramsey?

Toure and Ozil have been the best two players in the EPL this season.

As for Özil, that's open for debate. I think Ramsey has performed better, especially in September. In October Özil has started to catch up a little. Once he's fully settled in, I expect him to be better than ever before (as I said, in my eyes he's the best player in the EPL). And then, beware. Still amazing how he immediately started to perform for Arsenal

 

[JamDav1982]

No chance has Giroud been as good as Sturridge, Suarez or Aguero. Others like Remy, Benteke and Lukaku have all been outscoring him as well.

To go on that list on who scored.com would suggest Glen Johnson has been better than Toure which is absurd.

 

[ccesc]

Rosicky playing against Dortmund today.
Hope he will also play IN Dortmund.

 

[suckabov]

^ Reus finally meeting his idol on the pitch... (Have they played each other before?)

 

[ccesc]

I don't think so.
Last time Dortmund played against Arsenal, Rosicky was injured as far as I know.

 

[Jenks]

Don't see the logic behind playing Wilshere forward and Ramsey deep.

 

[pEllee]

Don't see the logic behind playing Wilshere forward and Ramsey deep.

I do. Wilshere can't defend to save his life. Ramsey always plays "deep".

 

[Martindn]

Oh look Arsenals first hard game of the season.

 

[AnfieldEd]

I do. Wilshere can't defend to save his life. Ramsey always plays "deep".

Except Wilshere is shite further forward.

 

[pEllee]

Oh look Arsenals first hard game of the season.

Shut up, 1-1 now.

Giroud with the goal.