George_Costanza
Active member
Top performance by Arthur, should at least assisted for two goals.
Arthur
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fergus90
Senior Member
I thought he was very good last season for a lad who's come to Europe and gone straight to Barcelona. Admittedly at times he played it safe, but that's probably the shackles and pressure for the first season, too scared to make a mistake.
But today he had the bit between his teeth and looked completely different class. Well taken goal and some excellent runs and through balls.
But today he had the bit between his teeth and looked completely different class. Well taken goal and some excellent runs and through balls.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
Pipe down.
One match was all it took for you to transform into a vindictive, patronizing tosser?
Reading previous threads you have hyped every former La Masia player in existence to the moon and back. I would pull up those quotes, but it's not the worth the time nor is it my intention is not to humiliate you any further.
Mate, you've built golden statues and monuments for players playing in China and Japan at the moment with years of failure and impotence behind them. Really, quite something coming from you to run your mouth about how I have been wrong about everything and I should keep my mouth shut because of one bloody match against a newly promoted Osasuna side.
Love to see it.
I said Arthur had a good match and he keeps it up. I also said De Jong needs to time to adapt and I believe he will come good, but the hype he got based on a few preseason matches was absurd and he hasn't shown that sort of level yet.
No clue what part of that got you this riled up, but then again I don't what it's like to lick the bare arse of every young player after a few decent performances and tell tales about how glamorous their careers are destined to be.
Lol, talking about one match? You've been sucking the nuts of Valverde and Rakitic since day 1, despite constant failures from the both of them. You're trying to save face and backtrack from your utterly delusional opinions by complimenting Arthur for the first time in your entire life. You seriously want applause for acknowledging his talent for the first time ever? Nah, that just shows how dumb your takes are.
To you, a guy like Rakitic is allowed to deliver failure after failure with endless chances to redeem himself and still not get criticized for it. Completely infallible. But Arthur or FDJ have one misstep here or there and their head goes right in the guillotine. You and your hero BBZ were saying FDJ/Arthur is an incompatible midfield and Arthur just a bum version of FDJ after 15 minutes in a friendly against Napoli. Don't try and pretend now that it never happened
And you're referencing those quotes by BBZ about me complimenting La Masia players? Honestly one of the worst arguments I've ever seen. Go on and actually read those quotes that he had pulled up. Stuff like "Halilovic was good on his Barca B debut". Or "Denis would be a good supersub compared to Gomes/Arda because our midfield is barren and he showed some life as a sub". "Samper was one of our best mids against APOEL".
Are you not allowed to say positive things about a player when they're young without suddenly being tied to their fate and career success? You seriously think I was saying all of those guys were ever gonna be starters in the future? All the comments I made were completely valid within the context of those performances and within the scope of the level they were playing at; B team, preseason, etc.
BBZ would have you believe I've been out adamantly stating that our future front 6 would be:
Denis-Adama-Deulofeu
--Puig------Halilovic
---------Samper
or some nonsensical shite like that. I straight up never said that about most of those players and was early to catch on to the flaws of the few that did seem capable. I was amongst the first to recognize Samper's mobility issues and that he didn't fit at CM nor CDM. People were still advocating for him to get chances around 2016, and at most I said better him than Gomes but Samper wouldn't truly make it anyway. I also was early to give up on both Deulofeu and Adama.
It is your own problem that you can't contextualize my praise of young players to the level they are competing at, not mine. You'll literally never find me saying that the likes of Halilovic, Samper, Denis, etc. should be starting CL semifinals for us or that they should have any big role whatsoever. At most I was saying they deserved a chance.
Whereas on the contrary, you and BBZ have both been extreme advocates for the likes of Valverde, Rakitic, Vidal, Coutinho, etc. in our biggest games and our most important roles. And that is way, way more embarrassing in hindsight.
Sorin
Well-known member
What Arthur showed today and when he was fit last season is enough to be a surefire starter for the foreseeable future. Even half fit and he's twice the player Bob, Busi or Rakitic are. The fact that he barely got half an hour in 3 matches and only because Valverde again shat the bed is simply unnaceptable.
BBZ and the rest of the Valverde/Rakitic nuthuggers will avoid this thread like the plague but once he has a bad game they will come in full force to scream about how right Valverde was or how good would Rakitic be. Despite the fact that they had 2 years of showing us their level, which was garbage.
BBZ and the rest of the Valverde/Rakitic nuthuggers will avoid this thread like the plague but once he has a bad game they will come in full force to scream about how right Valverde was or how good would Rakitic be. Despite the fact that they had 2 years of showing us their level, which was garbage.
serghei
Senior Member
He is like Shaqiri and Suarez. Bulky.
Jakabor
Well-known member
EdmondDantes
New member
BBZ has openly despised Arthur even before he arrived here for pre-season last summer.
He can dislike him all he wants, especially since Arthur and co are pretty much sentencing the end of his favourite (Rakitic) here but to keep calling Arthur 'slow' when he's one of the fastest CMs around is just plain dishonest. I'll accept when he was carrying that groin injury - one that was widely reported - by the end of last season he didn't look fit.
But look at that agility to twist and turn, that acceleration to get away from his marker, his low centre of gravity with this close control. And, as per Copa America's data; Arthur clocked the second best top speed in the tournament. Something like 33 or 34km/h.
As for his stamina, he was the player who covered most ground (km) for Brazil, despite having missed the first game through a knock.
In other words, get him fit and let him play. It's that simple. He was our best midfielder last season, despite having had to deal with 4 injuries.
Another quality of his that's underrated is his dribbling. A fit and firing Arthur is plain and simple a monster dribbler (for a central midfielder).
He completed 4 in the Libertadores final, 5 against Sevilla in the Copa del Rey, 3 and 4 - respectively - against Real in the clasicos and 4 today in 30 minutes.
For a CM those are top tier numbers.
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His SofaScore stats today:
Rating: 8.0
Minutes played: 37
Goals: 1
Touches: 39
Accurate passes: 25 (96%)
Key passes: 2
Big chance created: 1
Dribble attempts (succ.): 4 (4)
Shots on target: 1
Ground duels (won): 8 (6)
Aerial duels (won): 0 (0)
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The only thing he's got against him is this incompetent, out of his depth manager. And that goes to just about every young, talented player we have here.
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[youtube]NSI3mWswdEM[/youtube]
Libertadores final. Not slow. I'd post one from last season but they all get copyrighted/deleted, the uncropped ones anyway.
Today's performance:
[youtube]xzHHh_JRaeI[/youtube]
As usual, Youtube comps are cropped and incomplete but this one is not bad.
slow lol
He can dislike him all he wants, especially since Arthur and co are pretty much sentencing the end of his favourite (Rakitic) here but to keep calling Arthur 'slow' when he's one of the fastest CMs around is just plain dishonest. I'll accept when he was carrying that groin injury - one that was widely reported - by the end of last season he didn't look fit.
But look at that agility to twist and turn, that acceleration to get away from his marker, his low centre of gravity with this close control. And, as per Copa America's data; Arthur clocked the second best top speed in the tournament. Something like 33 or 34km/h.
As for his stamina, he was the player who covered most ground (km) for Brazil, despite having missed the first game through a knock.
In other words, get him fit and let him play. It's that simple. He was our best midfielder last season, despite having had to deal with 4 injuries.
Another quality of his that's underrated is his dribbling. A fit and firing Arthur is plain and simple a monster dribbler (for a central midfielder).
He completed 4 in the Libertadores final, 5 against Sevilla in the Copa del Rey, 3 and 4 - respectively - against Real in the clasicos and 4 today in 30 minutes.
For a CM those are top tier numbers.
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His SofaScore stats today:
Rating: 8.0
Minutes played: 37
Goals: 1
Touches: 39
Accurate passes: 25 (96%)
Key passes: 2
Big chance created: 1
Dribble attempts (succ.): 4 (4)
Shots on target: 1
Ground duels (won): 8 (6)
Aerial duels (won): 0 (0)
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The only thing he's got against him is this incompetent, out of his depth manager. And that goes to just about every young, talented player we have here.
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[youtube]NSI3mWswdEM[/youtube]
Libertadores final. Not slow. I'd post one from last season but they all get copyrighted/deleted, the uncropped ones anyway.
Today's performance:
[youtube]xzHHh_JRaeI[/youtube]
As usual, Youtube comps are cropped and incomplete but this one is not bad.
slow lol
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So, is BBZ's real name "Michael St Hill"???
Just look at the comments in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPr6FjDvsBw
Gustavo: ""It was incredible the way he protected the ball and gave Barcelona midfield a clear upgrade..His turns really make me remind of xavi and his first goal for Barça was pretty awesome!!!"
MichaelStHill: "You see what you want to see.
For my part there's perhaps a bit of melted ice cream spilt on the table.
The meat and potatoes -- well that's gone missing."
MichaelStHill: "De Ligt and De Jong are boy scouts, school boys.
At least at Juve they only played him because they had to: the Special Forces Green Beret was injured.
I don't know what Barca's excuse was for leaving Rakitic on the bench watching this kindergarten shit show."
"...and so it goes....
de Jong is a baby that needs to take his time and learn from the adults -- primarily Rakitic.
But it won't be for the first time Barca have disrespected their own.
The great players of Barca play for the team and don't adopt the Galactico persona,
hence they're not appreciated until they are gone.
Barca have kind of survived without Dani Alves but, Messi or no Messi, the hole that Rakitic leaves will not be so easy to fill."
Just look at the comments in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPr6FjDvsBw
Gustavo: ""It was incredible the way he protected the ball and gave Barcelona midfield a clear upgrade..His turns really make me remind of xavi and his first goal for Barça was pretty awesome!!!"
MichaelStHill: "You see what you want to see.
For my part there's perhaps a bit of melted ice cream spilt on the table.
The meat and potatoes -- well that's gone missing."
MichaelStHill: "De Ligt and De Jong are boy scouts, school boys.
At least at Juve they only played him because they had to: the Special Forces Green Beret was injured.
I don't know what Barca's excuse was for leaving Rakitic on the bench watching this kindergarten shit show."
"...and so it goes....
de Jong is a baby that needs to take his time and learn from the adults -- primarily Rakitic.
But it won't be for the first time Barca have disrespected their own.
The great players of Barca play for the team and don't adopt the Galactico persona,
hence they're not appreciated until they are gone.
Barca have kind of survived without Dani Alves but, Messi or no Messi, the hole that Rakitic leaves will not be so easy to fill."
Nello
Member
He's from Croatia, so I doubt his real name is Michael. The writing style is also far from BBZ's. Those comments are too short, and don't contain any arguments or stats to backup their claims, which, no matter if you agree with BBZ or not, he always back up his claims. Even if it's with long rants about cherry picked excessive stats.
Vilarrubi
New member
Doubt it, BBZ likes Frenkie.
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