Arthur

[Andrew M]

Thread needs moving

He's seeing out the season with us isn't he? So he's kind of still here for now

 

[Richard.H]

He's seeing out the season with us isn't he? So he's kind of still here for now

Really? if so it'll be really awkward for him.

 

[Vilarrubi]

He's seeing out the season with us isn't he? So he's kind of still here for now

Yeah true. I’m just done with players after they leave.

 

[Jadentheman]

Oh wow that's super awkward if he has to finish the season. Which means he's with Barca till August even though he's "not really a Barca player" anymore. The board just destablized the locker room, like it's gone now.

 

[BBZ8800]

Can I see a source for that please?

1. That Bayern actually wanted to sell him
2. That they wanted to sell him for those reasons

I'll be waiting.

Thiago is arguably a top 5 midfielder in the World. You don't even watch him play, or even followed him for years yet you feel confident as always to voice your "expert" opinion as absolute facts.

We talked about that a few years ago.
Hoeness or Rummenigge mentioned this in one interview back then after their CL exit in that season.

A guy who gave interview was dissapointed with Thiago back then.

 

[Birdy]

Kroos' game is all about his vertical progression, through balls, long balls in behind, diagonals to swift plays. He is one of the best final third passers in the world.

Arthur is NOTHING like that. He is a high volume passer who is passing it very safe. One of the worst passers to find solutions in the final third in La Liga. I have previously said he would have done well for himself if he reach the level of Banega, Parejo, Trigueros.

The fact that there is no Barca player on the right side of the graph (with more progressive distance than the avg) is not an accident.
Even Busquets, who is the best passer to break opposition lines, is below the avg in progressive distance.
To play long balls, you need out and out attackers or wingers constantly moving at the edge of the last line of the opponent.
Unfortunately, we don't have such players.

But, the big picture is how buildup is structured.
Barca was always about the short pass, even in Pep's glory days.
So, it is kind of unfair to blame Arthur for something that it was never demanded from him or any other midfielder to begin with, as this was never a part of Barca way of building up

 

[Messi983]

And people didn't want Parejo, lol.

 

[KingLeo10]

And people didn't want Parejo, lol.

You are definitely the most clueless of the EV stans around.

Have you considered Valencia play vertical football with tons of space that suits Parejo?

Have you considered Parejo doesn't offer any improvement whatsoever in terms of pace in midfield?

 

[Slevinn]

Oh wow that's super awkward if he has to finish the season. Which means he's with Barca till August even though he's "not really a Barca player" anymore. The board just destablized the locker room, like it's gone now.

Players who are running out of contract and sign with their new club in January also finish the season with their current club.
This isn?t the same but we will be ok. Arthur isn't part of the amigos.

 

[abiabi]

The fact that there is no Barca player on the right side of the graph (with more progressive distance than the avg) is not an accident.
Even Busquets, who is the best passer to break opposition lines, is below the avg in progressive distance.
To play long balls, you need out and out attackers or wingers constantly moving at the edge of the last line of the opponent.
Unfortunately, we don't have such players.

But, the big picture is how buildup is structured.
Barca was always about the short pass, even in Pep's glory days.
So, it is kind of unfair to blame Arthur for something that it was never demanded from him or any other midfielder to begin with, as this was never a part of Barca way of building up

We do that because we have to build the game slowly so Messi is able to be the focal point of the play always. We cannot play a vertical game with current Messi

Unfortunately people think its just the players playing safe or being incapable. Vidal was a great forward passer in Juve and is below Arthur on the graph. People need to realize the outdated system Barca plays

 

[Birdy]

We do that because we have to build the game slowly so Messi is able to be the focal point of the play always. We cannot play a vertical game with current Messi

Unfortunately people think its just the players playing safe or being incapable. Vidal was a great forward passer in Juve and is below Arthur on the graph. People need to realize the outdated system Barca plays

It's not outdated, it's ill applied for many reasons.
Look at Pep at City, where it is applied properly.
Are there any long balls there? Probably only by Ederson to find a runner.
Is it outdated? Hell no...

 

[Jadentheman]

The fact that there is no Barca player on the right side of the graph (with more progressive distance than the avg) is not an accident.
Even Busquets, who is the best passer to break opposition lines, is below the avg in progressive distance.
To play long balls, you need out and out attackers or wingers constantly moving at the edge of the last line of the opponent.
Unfortunately, we don't have such players.

But, the big picture is how buildup is structured.
Barca was always about the short pass, even in Pep's glory days.
So, it is kind of unfair to blame Arthur for something that it was never demanded from him or any other midfielder to begin with, as this was never a part of Barca way of building up

While this is true I saw progressive long passing existed in the Rijkaard era and during Lucho's time here. It was mostly done between the frontline and not the midfield though.

Players who are running out of contract and sign with their new club in January also finish the season with their current club.
This isn?t the same but we will be ok. Arthur isn't part of the amigos.

True, but there's something so so wrong with this transfer. It's has unhappy parties and reeks of corruption.

 

[Barcilliant]

Sucks to be Arthur. Imagine the humiliation.
At least he's earning a bigger pay check at Juve.
The problem with Arthur was stagnation, injuries and poor lifestyle choices. He didn't progress and always looked too timid.
I'm pretty sure Sarri will get the best out of him though.

 

[Respekt_III]

The fact that there is no Barca player on the right side of the graph (with more progressive distance than the avg) is not an accident.
Even Busquets, who is the best passer to break opposition lines, is below the avg in progressive distance.
To play long balls, you need out and out attackers or wingers constantly moving at the edge of the last line of the opponent.
Unfortunately, we don't have such players.

But, the big picture is how buildup is structured.
Barca was always about the short pass, even in Pep's glory days.
So, it is kind of unfair to blame Arthur for something that it was never demanded from him or any other midfielder to begin with, as this was never a part of Barca way of building up

I admire your determination and will power to constantly respond to statements and statistical data used out of context.

True, but there's something so so wrong with this transfer. It's has unhappy parties and reeks of corruption.

Genuinely dodgy as fuck and should be investigated with charges brought up on the board. Does Spain have any laws pertaining to white collar corruption & professional negligence?

 

[Vilarrubi]

lol