FCBfan22
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My expectations aren't that high. If he is better than Denis, Gomes and Vidal, I'll be happy.
Arthur
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My expectations aren't that high. If he is better than Denis, Gomes and Vidal, I'll be happy.
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MessiCam
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They’re very different players. But I have no doubts about Arthur.
Raketa10
Senior Member
[MENTION=2258]Hamzah[/MENTION] and [MENTION=20420]God Serena[/MENTION] lately turned from guys who believed in hype into a more cautious guys.
So, there is a hope for this world
Slightly offtopic, my opinion is that in general in a real life, majority of people get more and more cautious in every aspect of life as they get older.
I mean, when I was 15 or 18, I also believed that:
1. every single new youngster is the next big thing. You just need to give them minutes, a good coach and some chances and they will all turn into a next gen leaders... But it didn't turn out that way, of course.
2. I didn't think that any girl would cheat on you, if you are good towards her.
3. I didn't mean that a friend would turn a back on you, if you are good towards him.
4. I didn't think that someone would steal from you and similar
5. I didn't think that someone would lie on purpose, spreading fake news and doing any bad things in general. Why would someone do that?
But as you get older, you see 100s of bad stories in your life and in lives of people around you.
No offense to anyone, but my feeling is that 90% of posters here who are overly optimistic about EVERY SINGLE signing and about almost EVERY SINGLE Bteam player, like KingMessi in the past, or XxxKonan currently and similar, there is no way that they are older than let's say 25 years.
Again, no offense to anyone and I am not trying to attack anyone, but I just "see" (too much) of youthful optimism is those posts and imo that is related with poster's real life and real life age.
On the other hand, I don't have to ask some posters whether they are aged 30+ since you can see it from their posts and much more "negative" and "cautious" approach on signings, future, estimations and on views in general.
For example, Barcaman (Bojan), Dakt, Vlad, Khaled, TrickyKid, Ursegor etc.
We may not agree on ALL signings and all players, but majority of them trashed 1-2-5 youngsters and are cautious in general and aren't buying the hype on anyone easily.
Ok, I am sure that there are some guys here over 30+ who are hyped about every single young player here, but still, from what I have seen in real life till now, 90% of people get way more cautious in every aspect of life as they age.
So, sorry if some of us are too negative sometimes, but I just can't jump on a train and believe that every single signing is the next big thing (Mina, Arthur, Marlon, Semedo, Dembele, any player whom we buy).
When replying to posts like this, I always remember Hollywood movies which we watched as kids and which said: if you try hard enough, ANY of you can turn into a world class footballer, a famous actor, a famous singer, a famous model, insert any random thing which you dreamed of. You can achieve everything, you can do anything, the world is yours, you can CHANGE the world, you just have to try hard, lol.
Then, when you get older, you see that it is not enough ONLY to "try hard" to be successful.
Since other 1000 people around you will also try hard. And in the end, out of 1000 of you who tried hard and followed their dreams, only 1-10 will make it (in a way how you dreamed of).
So, some "try hard guys" will make it, as in movies, but other 990 guys out of 1000 will fail, even though they tried and worked hard. That's life.
When I say fail, they won't turn into failures, but just that their life and achievements won't get even close to that what Hollywood movies promised or what we dreamed of as a 13 or 15 years old kids.
Again, sorry for preaching and offtopic, but this is why me and some of us (I guess that they look the same on these things), can't just jump and say:
Oh yeah, Mina is the next big thing.
We'll say=well, from everything we have seen and learned in life, he probably won't make it. But let's give a guy a chance, maybe he will be one of those rare who will be good for Barca.
Again, imo, the same is with Arthur and everyone.
I am not actually hating on Arthur. I would like that he is a little taller and faster for my taste, though.
But he does possess some skills.
Now, let's slow down and see how will his set of skills, his mental strength, his injury proneness, his professionalism, his ability to adapt to a life in Europe and to a different club=work and click.
What we have seen till now from Arthur is just 20-30% of obstacles which he will face until he will turn into a Barca's level of a player.
Peace and hugs to everyone, guys
[MENTION=16942]BBZ8800[/MENTION] first of all I hope I didn’t offend you. I was joking with my previous post mate so sorry if I did.
Secondly I am also over 30 but I somehow learned that beeing negative in life brings nothing good so I tend to stay fairly optimistic. I sincerely don’t know if Arthur will succeed but I hope he might. I agree that majority of players might flop but every now and than there will be one Umtiti. To be fair in Arthur’s case chances are 50/50 but the thing that encourages me is that he looks much smarter than some other youngsters of his age. Will he succed or not only time will tell. I honestly don’t believe that he has any chance to bench Rakitic in his first year but we’ll see.
Regarding Pjaca and simmilar players IMHO problem is in two aspects:
1. They are not on the required tactical level since they left their club way to young and clubs like Dinamo actually don’t care about developing young players. They only care about selling them so they basically lose their entire first year in club like Juve on learning things they should have learned when they were 15. Dembele has similar problem.
2. Mayority of young guys care only about the fame and money that’s the reason why 90% of them never live up to their expectations. They want it immediately and they don’t want to wait until they fully develop so clubs like Barca, Juve, Real etc. chew them up and spit in a very short period.
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BBZ8800
Senior Member
You haven't offended me, nor anyone else, no harsh feelings, mate.
About a positive/negative view, a fair reply from you.
Each of us is different.
Being too negative is not good either, I agree.
We are offtopic, let's go back to Arthur now.
Felipetonelo
New member
He scored again
Raketa10
Senior Member
Jesus Christ look at this highlights. The amount of space and time is hilarious!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raznojnuSAo
I know this is only state championship and not official Brazilian championship but it looks like a friendly match.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raznojnuSAo
I know this is only state championship and not official Brazilian championship but it looks like a friendly match.
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Messi983
Senior Member
I know most opponents in this State championship are somewhere on Spanish Tercera division or even lower level but he's now scored in 3 consecutive games if I'm not mistaken. He's not exactly a goal scorer (according to TM he's scored 1 goal in 40 total matches in Brasileirao+Libertadores which we can consider as more serious competitions) so it would be nice if he could add goals to his game. Not expecting him to score 10+ per season but 5-7 would be good. Dembele is more a creator than a scorer so we'll need more goals from the second row. We know Busi and defenders are rarely scoring (maybe Mina will score some headers with more playing time) so getting another proven scorer in Griezmann will definitely help. We can probably also count on around 10 goals from both Cou and Paulinho and Raki is averaging around 7 goals in his time here (though he's scoring less with more defensive duties under Valverde) so if Arthur will eventually replace him in the lineup in a year or two it would be great if he could also deliver some goals.
Senador Romario
New member
As if playing in Brazil and playing in Spain is the same.
There is no example of a top Brazilian player that looked inferior playing in Spain. All them look better playing in La Liga. And please dont talk about KLEBERSON because he was never considered a top player in Brazil.
Except Barca/Madrid and Atletic, the Libertadores is much more tough than La Liga.
God Serena
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Jesus Christ look at this highlights. The amount of space and time is hilarious!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raznojnuSAo
I know this is only state championship and not official Brazilian championship but it looks like a friendly match.
But look at that passing %. Definitely Xavi reincarnated.
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