DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
No, it doesn't. When do you see it being added? You're just doing that to make the fee seem a lot higher. Like Pogba for 200m
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No, it doesn't. When do you see it being added? You're just doing that to make the fee seem a lot higher. Like Pogba for 200m
khaled_a_d
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if we sell Bravo I hope a part of the deal will be City waiving their 1st refusal and 25% of future sale of Denis Suarez.
No, it doesn't. When do you see it being added? You're just doing that to make the fee seem a lot higher. Like Pogba for 200m
Signing on-fees must be added of course, since that is the cost of the transfer transaction for the buying club. Just admit you were wrong and move on.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...issed-8-5m-signing-fee-177-000-week-deal.html
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
No they're not. The transfer fee is paid for the registration rights of a player.
The signing-on-fee is paid to the PLAYER. Not to the SELLING CLUB.
Did you even read that article? They clearly say £29m move.
Of course the signing on fee is to the player!
The player gets a very high signing-on-fee from RM as a result of the contract situation with Man U. The whole point is that it is part of the cost of buying the player. 50m euros for de Gea when he had a year left was not as low as you make it out to be.Regarding Bravo. Getting rid of him for 20m means we are weakening our team and strengthening a rival for no gain at all. People shouldnt applaud this IMO.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Of course the signing on fee is to the player!
Then what the hell are you arguing? I'm only saying that the sign-on-fee shouldn't count towards the transfer fee. A lot of players get a bonus for joining a team, even when they got more years left on their deal. And usually we don't even know how much they get.
Does it mean it's counted as a part of the transfer fee? Nope.
So no. Real Madrid did almost sign him for 38m. To say it was 50m is stupid. Otherwise you gotta start doing the same for all the transfers that happened and newsflash; We usually don't get to know the details of their contracts.
In this instance it was leaked.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Of course the signing on fee is to the player!
Regarding Bravo. Getting rid of him for 20m means we are weakening our team and strengthening a rival for no gain at all. People shouldnt applaud this IMO.
You are comparing the fee Barca are willing to sell for compared to what Real were prepared to pay.
One fee includes player signing on fee other doesn't.
Man Utd were not willing to let him go for half price as they haggled hard and hoped if stayed for that year would sign a new contract.
The signing on-fees are usually low and are only really relevant when the contract of star players is expiring as the player has so much leverage. Thats why they are very important in those circumstances to tell the true cost of the transfer for the buying club. Ideally of course they should always be disclosed.
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JamDav1982
Senior Member
The value of the player to the selling club is what is relevant.
If City give Bravo a £5m signing bonus does this suddenly become a better deal?
If City give Bravo a £5m signing bonus does this suddenly become a better deal?
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Wait a second,he is adding player "sign on fee" not add-ons?
JamDav1982
Senior Member
If Barca were signing a 33 year old keeper for 20m you would do nothing moan about... No resale value, most expensive 33 year old ever etc.
You just moan about every transfer going unless you liked them years ago.
You just moan about every transfer going unless you liked them years ago.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Yes. He is adding sign-on-fee.
Which doesn't make any sense as the transfer fee is paid to the selling club. How can you add that to the transfer fee? And if you're going to talk about the total cost of a transfer then you got to do the same for all transfers and that won't happen as in 95% of the cases, we don't know and likely never will know the inner details of their contracts. The various bonuses for the players, agents etc.
No, but it tells us how much he is valued in the market.
Its a crap deal for us. End of story. No reason to go for this.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
It doesn't sense at all as he is moaning about the selling club value but comparing it not to what Man U were to get as selling club.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
No it doesnt tell us how much he was valued at by selling club which is the figure relevant here.
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