Barca Transfers and Rumors

[Messi983]

I think our need for "controlling CM" is a bit overrated here. Sure it would be nice to have one but we usually don't have problems to keep possesion. Where we struggled mostly was creating chances but this shouldn't be problem anymore with Coutinho here now and also Dembele returning.

 

[MessiCam]

I think our need for "controlling CM" is a bit overrated here. Sure it would be nice to have one but we usually don't have problems to keep possesion. Where we struggled mostly was creating chances but this shouldn't be problem anymore with Coutinho here now and also Dembele returning.

When Iniesta is absent we look at sea when pressed in midfield and Rakitic just isn't an efficient distributor of the ball. I think it is very important for us going forward but I think the answer lay in house with Alena. He played that role in the preseason games and looked fantastic. He is left footed too...

 

[Messi983]

When Iniesta is absent we look at sea when pressed in midfield and Rakitic just isn't an efficient distributor of the ball. I think it is very important for us going forward but I think the answer lay in house with Alena. He played that role in the preseason games and looked fantastic. He is left footed too...

Yeah, but we'll have Coutinho now to play alongside Rakitic when Iniesta won't play.

 

[MessiCam]

Yeah, but we'll have Coutinho now to play alongside Rakitic when Iniesta won't play.

I'm with you but whether we end up playing 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 (which appears to be the long term ambition) we still need a deep lying playmaker. The box to box types will be used on a as is necessary basis. If only Rakitic/Paulinho were as positionally astute and as good a distributor as Seydou Keita.

 

[Jombi]

To be honest, right now there are only 2 controlling CM players in the world who are good enough for Barca. (I don't count those from Real)

1. Verratti - that's never going to happen so we can forget about him
2. Thiago - he is great but unbelievably injury prone and I don't think Bayern would sell

Appart from those two I don't see anyone right now who could get in our starting lineup immediately. IMHO we should try to develop Alena and stick with current midfielders until we find someone who is good enough or we might end up with another Gomes.

I think this is a mistake. It reminds me of people only seeing Thiago Silva or nothing when we wanted to sign a CB. Alena has shown nothing and we cant stop looking just because we bought an average player like Gomes who was average before he joined us and is average now. Do we really want to miss out on the next Verratti? PSG, City, RM, Bayern certainly dont stop looking, so why should we?

 

[Xaviniesta]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ro" dir="ltr">Operation sales: <br><br>Arda Turan: Başakşehir <br>André Gomes: Has asked to leave <br>Deulofeu: Napoli or Inter Milan <br>Denis Suárez: Napoli <br>Aleix Vidal: Sevilla <br>Rafinha: Celta Vigo <br>Mascherano: Hebei Fortune. [<a href="https://twitter.com/dircomPedro?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dircomPedro</a>]</p>— BarcaSpiral (@BarcaSpiral) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarcaSpiral/status/950712773587161088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Raketa10]

I think this is a mistake. It reminds me of people only seeing Thiago Silva or nothing when we wanted to sign a CB. Alena has shown nothing and we cant stop looking just because we bought an average player like Gomes who was average before he joined us and is average now. Do we really want to miss out on the next Verratti? PSG, City, RM, Bayern certainly dont stop looking, so why should we?

I said: "i don't see it now" and not " we should stop looking". How did you conclude this?
I don't see Barcelona level controlling CM player on the market right now. If I am wrong tell me who is this player?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ro" dir="ltr">Operation sales: <br><br>Arda Turan: Başakşehir <br>André Gomes: Has asked to leave <br>Deulofeu: Napoli or Inter Milan <br>Denis Suárez: Napoli <br>Aleix Vidal: Sevilla <br>Rafinha: Celta Vigo <br>Mascherano: Hebei Fortune. [<a href="https://twitter.com/dircomPedro?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dircomPedro</a>]</p>— BarcaSpiral (@BarcaSpiral) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarcaSpiral/status/950712773587161088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Bartomeu getting rid of the dead weight

No way we'll sell Gomes this winter and I also highly doubt we will sell Denis before summer.

 

[Jombi]

I said: "i don't see it now" and not " we should stop looking". I don't see such a player now on the market. If you do tell me who is this player?

But thats the thing. You are mentioning superstars from PSG and Bayern. They are not on the market. Just like Thiago Silva was not on the market. But sticking with Alena until Thiago or Verratti becomes available is not really a sustainable solution. That doesnt mean there are no one better than Alena out there. What has Alena shown? Should he not be loaned out instead? He's 20 and not even getting any minutes from Valverde. There must be a reason.

 

[Raketa10]

But thats the thing. You are mentioning superstars from PSG and Bayern. They are not on the market. Just like Thiago Silva was not on the market. But sticking with Alena until Thiago or Verratti becomes available is not really a sustainable solution. That doesnt mean there are no one better than Alena out there. What has Alena shown? Should he not be loaned out instead? He's 20 and not even getting any minutes from Valverde. There must be a reason.

Where did I say we should stick to Alena until Thiago or Verratti become available? If you read more carefully my post I said I believe non of the two can be signed since Bayern and PSG won't sell. I also said: "we should try to develop Alena and stick with current midfielders until we find someone who is good enough"

 

[Jombi]

Where did I say we should stick to Alena until Thiago or Verratti become available?

You are saying we should stick with Alena right? Forget about Thiago and Verratti. Those are not who we should be focusing on. Just because they are not available doesnt mean we have to stick with Alena. We should definitely strengthen our midfield.

 

[Raketa10]

You are saying we should stick with Alena right? Forget about Thiago and Verratti. Those are not who we should be focusing on. Just because they are not available doesnt mean we have to stick with Alena. We should definitely strengthen our midfield.

And why do you think we shouldn't give a chance to a brightest midfield prospect of La Masia since Thiago??? I strongly believe this kid deserves a chance or we might end up with "Thiago case 2.0".

 

[Jombi]

And why do you think we shouldn't give a chance to a brightest midfield prospect of La Masia since Thiago???

Loan out Alena if he's really that good. Valverde isnt convinced obviously. The gap between Alena and players like Thiago is ridiculously large. We should definitely be looking in the market for reinforcements of our midfield.

 

[FCBfan22]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ro" dir="ltr">Operation sales: <br><br>Arda Turan: Başakşehir <br>André Gomes: Has asked to leave <br>Deulofeu: Napoli or Inter Milan <br>Denis Suárez: Napoli <br>Aleix Vidal: Sevilla <br>Rafinha: Celta Vigo <br>Mascherano: Hebei Fortune. [<a href="https://twitter.com/dircomPedro?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dircomPedro</a>]</p>— BarcaSpiral (@BarcaSpiral) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarcaSpiral/status/950712773587161088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I expect 5 of those to become a reality: Arda, Deulofeu, Vidal, Rafinha and Mascherano.

Rafinha on loan, I would sell the rest.

 

[Devils]

I don't expect Gomes or Denis to leave in this will leave this window.

I'm actually kind of interested to see how Gomes will perform from now until the end of the season given his recent form.

 

[Raketa10]

Loan out Alena if he's really that good. Valverde isnt convinced obviously. The gap between Alena and players like Thiago is ridiculously large. We should definitely be looking in the market for reinforcements of our midfield.

Players like Thago??? Dude kid is 20 years old and Thiago 27. You should be comparing Thiago when he was 20 and Alena.

Name me one Barca player in recent years who went on a loan and improved significantly after that? That's the recipe for disaster. If we won't develop our players no one will do that for us.

If we are not ready to invest in Alena than entire La Masia philosophy is dead. Name me ONE midfielder who would SIGNIFICANTLY improve our midfield IMMEDIATELY? It's fucking sad some people here would spend 50 mil on Arthur and on the other side would't give a chance to Alena.