Barca Transfers and Rumors

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MessiCam

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ro" dir="ltr">Operation sales: <br><br>Arda Turan: Başakşehir <br>André Gomes: Has asked to leave <br>Deulofeu: Napoli or Inter Milan <br>Denis Suárez: Napoli <br>Aleix Vidal: Sevilla <br>Rafinha: Celta Vigo <br>Mascherano: Hebei Fortune. [<a href="https://twitter.com/dircomPedro?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dircomPedro</a>]</p>— BarcaSpiral (@BarcaSpiral) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarcaSpiral/status/950712773587161088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Bartomeu getting rid of the dead weight :dance: :rockon:

Music to my ears... I'd keep Denis though.
 

Jombi

New member
I expect 5 of those to become a reality: Arda, Deulofeu, Vidal, Rafinha and Mascherano.

Rafinha on loan, I would sell the rest.

Definitely loan them out instead of keeping them. We need to reduce our incredible wage bill and other clubs are not interested in paying a transfer fee in addition to taking on their wages they got with us. If we can loan out Arda and Vidal we should jump at the chance.
 

Jombi

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Players like Thago??? Dude kid is 20 years old and Thiago 27. You should be comparing Thiago when he was 20 and Alena.

Name me one Barca player in recent years who went on a loan and improved significantly after that? That's the recipe for disaster. If we won't develop our players no one will do that for us.

If we are not ready to invest in Alena than entire La Masia philosophy is dead. Name me ONE midfielder who would SIGNIFICANTLY improve our midfield IMMEDIATELY? It's fucking sad some people here would spend 50 mil on Arthur and on the other side would't give a chance to Alena.

If Alena is really that good, he will prosper in La Liga at another club. But there must be a reason why Valverde isnt giving him any chances even with our current midfield. The gap between Thiago and Alena is so huge now, so thats why I am saying that its not either Thiago or Alena. If we compare as 20 year olds, Thiago as a 20 year old had also more than 50 games for the first team and had several caps for Spain's senior squad. Talk about significantly improve the midfield immediately means you are talking about world class players from rich clubs. They are not available. That doesnt mean there are no midfielders in the world who can reinforce our midfield.
 

Devils

Senior Member
Out of all those players the only one I would really want to keep is Masch, but he's the one who is most guaranteed to leave.

Then I would sell one of Gomes or Denis in the summer. Going by what I've seen so far this season I'd keep Gomes and sell Denis.

The rest of those players are useless though.

-Arda speaks for himself
-Vidal is not even useful as a backup anymore since we have much superior players now to cover the positions he played (Dembouz, Roberto and Semedo)
-Deulofeu is horrendous and failed miserably
-Rafinha isn't going to get minutes anymore either
 

Xaviniesta

Senior Member
Denis has had more good games than Gomes. Gomes is deceiving all of you. He always goes back to his turtle form after shining for a bit. He should be sold if we get a good offer, along with Denis.
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
If Alena is really that good, he will prosper in La Liga at another club. But there must be a reason why Valverde isnt giving him any chances even with our current midfield. The gap between Thiago and Alena is so huge now, so thats why I am saying that its not either Thiago or Alena. If we compare as 20 year olds, Thiago as a 20 year old had also more than 50 games for the first team and had several caps for Spain's senior squad. Talk about significantly improve the midfield immediately means you are talking about world class players from rich clubs. They are not available. That doesnt mean there are no midfielders in the world who can reinforce our midfield.

OK why don't you name few than?
 

Jombi

New member
Denis has had more good games than Gomes. Gomes is deceiving all of you. He always goes back to his turtle form after shining for a bit. He should be sold if we get a good offer, along with Denis.

What exactly has Gomes shown? I looked it up and he has fewer minutes in La Liga and the CL than Vidal.
 

Devils

Senior Member
How can Gomes be deceiving if he is actually starting to play well? That makes no sense.

Anyways, he been pretty decent coming off the bench recently and a long with Paco has shown some consistent progress. These are the type of guys who can be useful squad players.

Denis on the other hand has been terrible.
 

Jombi

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OK why don't you name few than?

The point is not to talk about names, our scouts should have a good knowledge about different markets. The point is that we should reinforce the midfield, and we cant expect Alena to do that for us when he has shown so little and Valverde shows no trust in him.
 
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MessiCam

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We need to be careful though, we can not just sell all of them and then have a thin squad.

Squad won't be thin at all.

MaTS/Cillessen, Alba/Digne, Umtiti/Vermaelen, Pique/Mina, Semedo/Roberto (can play anywhere), Coutinho/Iniesta/Denis (should be kept until at least the summer) Busquets, Rakitic/Paulinho/Alena (should he be required/promoted), Suarez/Paco, Messi/Dembele/Arnaiz.

Busquets is basically the only player without a direct replacement but Rakitic has done well when called upon in that position.

Roberto, Coutinho, Iniesta, Denis, Arnaiz, Messi and Dembele can play multiple positions too.

House would be in order, wage bill significantly reduced paving the way for 1/2 more quality signings in the future.
 

FCBfan22

Senior Member
Conisdering that Napoli is linked with both Denis and Deulofeu...

I think Napoli really wants Denis, but we keep offering them Deulofeu.

:bartomeu:
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
The point is not to talk about names, our scouts should have a good knowledge about different markets. The point is that we should reinforce the midfield, and we cant expect Alena to do that for us when he has shown so little and Valverde shows no trust in him.

Alena was together with Arnaiz our best player in B team this season so I don't agree that he has shown very little. This kid is young, he is developing fine and gradually and I believe he will be great. Whether he could reach the level of Thiago it's early to say but I believe he has great potential. Watching him only on US tour it was obvious this kid has some serious talent. One of the reasons he can't get any chance is the fact that our midfield is crowded but that should be settled until next summer.
 
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