Barca Transfers and Rumors

[FCBfan22]

His technique , vision and passing is a thousand times better than Ya Ya .
That said I never rated Toure .

Better than Yaya, but still nowhere good enough for us, especially to play with GOAT.

 

[snowy]

JarJar is jjjuuuust okayish at dribbling. Where he really excels is at sliding tackles and headers.

Not that in matters though, he said he'll never live Naboo. Home is where the heart is

 

[Givenchy]

Pogba has been crucial to the united season, there is no way they will sell him. Him and de gea are their best players.

I think he'll be looking for a move anyway, imagine having to play under Mourinho for another season

 

[FCBfan22]

I'd say go all in for Eriksen again. We need to pass this message to the cunts in Barca board.

 

[LosBlancos]

Barca has lacked quality depth in their squad over the last 3 or so seasons. I mean, there are and have been players to fill roles (Rafinha, Denis, Arda, Samper, Gomes..etc) but none of them showed enough ability, at least when I have watched, to fight for a spot legitimately. What is odd is that lacking quality squad depth should be reflected in league performance, but it hasn't really been the case since they have won 2 out of the last 3 league titles. A good portion of that is sheer brilliance of Messi sure, but it is still nonetheless a little eye-opening.

I also thought they'd be looking at more CM's. Surely with Iniesta's departure and Rakitic getting older they aren't only satisfied with Arthur? I know their are rumors of Eriksen, but he is more of an attacking midfielder.

 

[ebieymjunior]

Barca has lacked quality depth in their squad over the last 3 or so seasons. I mean, there are and have been players to fill roles (Rafinha, Denis, Arda, Samper, Gomes..etc) but none of them showed enough ability, at least when I have watched, to fight for a spot legitimately. What is odd is that lacking quality squad depth should be reflected in league performance, but it hasn't really been the case since they have won 2 out of the last 3 league titles. A good portion of that is sheer brilliance of Messi sure, but it is still nonetheless a little eye-opening.

I also thought they'd be looking at more CM's. Surely with Iniesta's departure and Rakitic getting older they aren't only satisfied with Arthur? I know their are rumors of Eriksen, but he is more of an attacking midfielder.

Well with Arthur and Eriksen, you'd have:
DM: Busquets, Samper (give that kid a chance), Oriol in Reserves
CM: Rakitic, Arthur, Sergi Roberto, Paulinho (I'd personally sell him, Roberto can do what he does), Puig in Reserves
AM: Eriksen, Alena, Vitinho in Reserves

That's depth galore

That's with all of Iniesta, Gomes, Denis, Rafinha, (and unfortunately not Paulinho), gone

 

[snowy]

Barca has lacked quality depth in their squad over the last 3 or so seasons. I mean, there are and have been players to fill roles (Rafinha, Denis, Arda, Samper, Gomes..etc) but none of them showed enough ability, at least when I have watched, to fight for a spot legitimately. What is odd is that lacking quality squad depth should be reflected in league performance, but it hasn't really been the case since they have won 2 out of the last 3 league titles. A good portion of that is sheer brilliance of Messi sure, but it is still nonetheless a little eye-opening.

I also thought they'd be looking at more CM's. Surely with Iniesta's departure and Rakitic getting older they aren't only satisfied with Arthur? I know their are rumors of Eriksen, but he is more of an attacking midfielder.

It really is eye-opening! Messi has been saving these morons for years. Replace this idiot board with the smart sharks managing say Coca-Cola or Nestle and these dudes, even without knowing zip about football, would've been able to surround Leo with a top quality squad.

Not even kidding

even the uniform colors match

 

[ebieymjunior]

My Ideal Summer

- Buy: Griezmann, Arthur, de Ligt, A veteran RB (not too old, just until Morey is ready)
- Promote: Arnáiz, Aleñá
- Sell: Douglas, Rafinha, Deulofeu, Munir, Vidal, Gomes, Iniesta, Denis Suárez, Paulinho (chances are slim)
- Send On Loan: Mina, Marlon, Palencia (makes space for Morey in the B team)

You get this squad (* before name: reserve squad/B team players):

GK: Marc-André ter Stegen / Jasper Cillessen / *Iñaki Peña (possible future promotion with Cillessen gone)
CB: Gerard Piqué / Matthijs de Ligt / *Santiago Bueno (no future promotion: Mina / Marlon back when Piqué is gone)
CB: Samuel Umtiti / Thomas Vermaelen / *Jorge Cuenca (possible future promotion with Vermaelen gone)
RB: Nélson Semedo / Veteran RB / *Mateu Morey (possible future promotion with the RB gone)
LB: Jordi Alba / Lucas Digne / *Marc Cucurella or Juan Miranda (possible future promotion with either Digne gone)
DM: Sergio Busquets / Sergi Samper / *Oriol Busquets (possible future promotion with Samper moving to CM)
CM/DM: Ivan Rakitić / Arthur Melo / Sergi Roberto / *Ricard Puig (possible future promotion with Rakitic gone, if one of Roberto or Samper don’t work out)
CM/AM: Philippe Coutinho / Carles Aleñá / *Álex Collado (possible future promotion with Rakitic gone, if both Roberto or Samper don’t work out)
CF/SS: Lionel Messi / Luis Suárez / *Abel Ruiz (possible future promotion with Suárez gone)
RW/RF: Ousmane Dembélé / Paco Alcácer / *Carles Pérez (possible future promotion with Alcácer gone)
LW/LF: Antoine Griezmann / José Arnáiz / *David Alfonso (no future promotion)

That’s a 23-man squad with a mixture of outside and inbred talent that can be rotated and utilizes the reserves (B team players) when possible (smaller games to test them and have them gain experience in the top flight). This builds for the future and also sends a message to La Masia that they are valued.

If the reserves get first team minutes once in a while, they’d be satisfied with staying at the B team for a longer period of time (now that they have a coach who’s not only driven by results but also nurtures and prepares them for the first team). They’d also have more minutes at B level, while getting first team minutes.

 

[Nothanks]

Well with Arthur and Eriksen, you'd have:
DM: Busquets, Samper (give that kid a chance), Oriol in Reserves
CM: Rakitic, Arthur, Sergi Roberto, Paulinho (I'd personally sell him, Roberto can do what he does), Puig in Reserves
AM: Eriksen, Alena, Vitinho in Reserves

That's depth galore

That's with all of Iniesta, Gomes, Denis, Rafinha, (and unfortunately not Paulinho), gone

these aren't worth playing for the first team, if anything they are worse than what we currently have, vitonho over rafinha?
samper doesn't deserve a chance he was never good enough (inb4 that preseason game hype)
oriol had one season wonder and just suffered a huge injury and you want to include him as third option to sergio busquets? might hurt you to hear this but gomes in DM spot is better than almost all la masia products right now

 

[ebieymjunior]

these aren't worth playing for the first team, if anything they are worse than what we currently have, vitonho over rafinha?
samper doesn't deserve a chance he was never good enough (inb4 that preseason game hype)
oriol had one season wonder and just suffered a huge injury and you want to include him as third option to sergio busquets? might hurt you to hear this but gomes in DM spot is better than almost all la masia products right now

And then people wonder what happened to La Masia...

I'm not suggesting you promote Oriol, Puig and Vitinho, at least not in the near future,
but at least play them in small games like Pep used to do with B team players.
And I'd give Samper a chance, I think he'll do well, look at how far Roberto has come.

 

[wisconsincule]

And then people wonder what happened to La Masia...

You can’t just plug la masia kids into the first team to restore this Barca DNA. These kids arent good enough. Look at Barca B. They are about to be relegated from the second divison. Barca’s first team has to have the best players in the world. Yes it’s great to have home grown talent but we are just exiting our golden generation and it’s impossible to continue churning out world class players. Yes it sucks losing our young prospects but how many of these kids have actually panned out where they are good enough to be in the first team!?! Outside of maybe Grimaldo—- ZERO

 

[ebieymjunior]

You can’t just plug la masia kids into the first team to restore this Barca DNA. These kids arent good enough. Look at Barca B. They are about to be relegated from the second divison. Barca’s first team has to have the best players in the world. Yes it’s great to have home grown talent but we are just exiting our golden generation and it’s impossible to continue churning out world class players. Yes it sucks losing our young prospects but how many of these kids have actually panned out where they are good enough to be in the first team!?! Outside of maybe Grimaldo—- ZERO

Again, I'm not suggesting promoting the whole B team, I'm just saying play them in small matches in order to test them out, that also makes them grow as they gain some experience in the top flight. Grimaldo is the prime example of what happens if we don't do that.
If the reserve team would get first team playing time once in a while, they'd be satisfied with staying at the B team for longer.
And obviously if they have a coach who's more focussed on results rather than preparing them for the first team, it's not surprising that they are in the relegation zone.

 

[Joan]

Both of you are partly right but I'd go with ebieymjunior. Developing young talents is a MUST. If we fail to do to that, we'll face huge problems in few years' time. He's overdoing it, truth be told.

You say: Gomes is a better DM than any other la Masia product. Might be true, but we DON'T know.
Does that mean that he's a better player than Oriol and Samper? Or that he's a better player for Barca? Based on what?
Note that Gomes cost us nearly 50m.
I'll go further: even if he is a better DM for Barca at the moment, does he have higher potential? That logic applied, Busquets would never gain his spot.

Also, which division they play doesn't really matter if they are good enough. Not good enough players are not Barca B's problem. With Oriol and Arnaiz they weren't close to relegation and so on, so on...

We mustn't be that shortsighted. I don't believe Samper will ever make it anywhere, to be frank. But I hope Oriol can. Not asking for him to play the CL, but Copa matches, some Primera games... why not? You never know what you might discover.

A 23-man squad with a mixture of outside and inbred talent that can rotate and utilizes the reserves when necessary.
It builds for the future and also sends a message to La Masia that they are valued.

Some players shouldn't be there. Like Vitinho (not a starter in Barca B) und so weiter. But, most of them are third options. You basically ask for 2 promotions, Cucu and Alenya, that's not unrealistic.

 

[Nothanks]

lol only person in barca b that has any business as third or second options to starters is alena, the rest are either trash or way too young to be determined and need to spend more time in the B team like miranda

cucu can barely play second division football what makes you think he'll do anything against the real madrids, bayerns or manchesters he isn't even an upgrade to digne
samper guy who can barely play for his loaned out teams isn't an upgrade to gomes/paulinho.
i remember half of you crying for palencia to be RB over roberto last season now what? he's failed as a product and also can barely handle second division football

real madrid's starting 11 consists of a grand total of 1 youth products (their weakest link lucas vazquez)
and they are not introuble, this crap that la masia NEEDS to work for a club to thrive is total bullshit.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Vitinho? Barca would be idiots to even exercise the buyout option, he isn't worth 12M and he has been losing his minutes in B team recently