Givenchy
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would probably still be an improvement on what we have right now even at his age
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would probably still be an improvement on what we have right now even at his age
FinBarcelonafan
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It worked for a while but at the end of the season opponents adjust to it and it wasn't working anymore. It helped our defense at first but later in the season it just destroyed our offensive game. See Rome game. We went there to lose. This is not how Barca team is build. Teams like ManU, Chelsea can park the bus but not Barcelona. We just don't have the player types for that type of play.
Not to mention 442 is boring.
what I find a bit interesting is this:
Busquets? Most Barca fans think he is GOAT dm and just behind Messi in importance
Rakitic? Everyone suggesting replacing him on r/barca gets tons of downvotes, voted our best player after Messi this season on r/barca
Coutinho? Almost every Barca fan rates him
Yet there are always complaints about how poor our midfield is, especially when it comes to Messi/Ronaldo discussions where many say that Ronaldo is lucky to play with such great midfielders while Messi is stuck playing with an average midfield. If Griezmann signs, then Coutinho will likely be our 3rd midfielder and the above three players will probably form our starting midfield. So I'm struggling to understand how the popular opinion seems to be that our midfield is poor and needs improvement, while at the same time most fans on here highly rate all of our midfielders and don't want any of them to be replaced.
Busquets? Most Barca fans think he is GOAT dm and just behind Messi in importance
Rakitic? Everyone suggesting replacing him on r/barca gets tons of downvotes, voted our best player after Messi this season on r/barca
Coutinho? Almost every Barca fan rates him
Yet there are always complaints about how poor our midfield is, especially when it comes to Messi/Ronaldo discussions where many say that Ronaldo is lucky to play with such great midfielders while Messi is stuck playing with an average midfield. If Griezmann signs, then Coutinho will likely be our 3rd midfielder and the above three players will probably form our starting midfield. So I'm struggling to understand how the popular opinion seems to be that our midfield is poor and needs improvement, while at the same time most fans on here highly rate all of our midfielders and don't want any of them to be replaced.
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Joan
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If you read posts on Barcaforum, then you know almost everyone thinks we should get an upgrade on Rakitić.
Coutinho hasn't played as a main man in the midfield yet so we know nothing about it.
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
I think Ronaldo complains come from the fact Messi has to create everything for himself, while Ronaldo waits for others do the dirty work for he gets the glory.
Busquets is great when you have the ball, but If we want to keep playing Valverde type of football(set the bus), I don't think he is good option. He is just not that good defensively, he is weak and slow in defense and quite often he just gets run past. There's no denying he can be liability in defense when opponent is coming with speed.
Rakitic and Busi in midfield is just too slow for modern day football vs top teams. We need to add speed, badly.. I guess I've said that 20 times already but this team lacks fast and fresh legs.
Either way I'm sick of watching Barca crumble in CL year after year. We need to change something, obviously.. Because it is not working at all.
Selling Rakitic to ManU for 60 million sounds like a good idea to me. Sell Suarez as well. I think these are the guys we need to replace If we seriously want to challenge for CL again. Get proper striker, replace Rakitic with faster, younger player. I think it would give a lot of energy and new ambition to this team. It's why Zidane left, when you can't motivate the team, either change it or leave yourself. I think Barcelona players are too entitled and too happy with all their trophies.. We need some new and hungry players to come in and win us few CL again!
This team is lacking in fighting spirit because they won everything 10 times already. Sign some new players and get rid of some old ones.
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Good post.
Truth be told, it was under Laporta when this started as he stated top players needed to be paid top money.
Think we should have taken a different stance. You come to Barca to play with the best and win trophies, not your final big pay. It did work with signing some players who agreed to less wages than they had so I don't see why they weren't more consistent with it. Would also help if we had a set structure of wage classes.
It is a big problem which is a big weight on the club and it's future and I think there should be more discussions about it but we never see it in Catalan press.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
But how can you possibly justify being cheap and withholding big paychecks from the star/important players when you freely give out high wages to the scrubs as well? Barca has dug itself into a hole with wages, paying small fortunes to players who deserve the bare minimum. Like the inflation of the transfer market, this only goes in one direction.
Barca inflated the wages of the bottomfeeders at the club AND got pushed around financially by Neymar and his dad, players are going to demand more based on their relative worth at the club. Which is only fair, why should the players carrying us to titles be paid less or comparatively to the likes of Gomes, Paulinho, or Paco? All of them are piss poor players on absurd contracts. Barca created this mess and there really is no way out of it for the long run. All they can do is clear out the unreasonable contracts for poor players and slow the inflation on the contracts of the stars.
Barca inflated the wages of the bottomfeeders at the club AND got pushed around financially by Neymar and his dad, players are going to demand more based on their relative worth at the club. Which is only fair, why should the players carrying us to titles be paid less or comparatively to the likes of Gomes, Paulinho, or Paco? All of them are piss poor players on absurd contracts. Barca created this mess and there really is no way out of it for the long run. All they can do is clear out the unreasonable contracts for poor players and slow the inflation on the contracts of the stars.
Barcilliant
Senior Member
Linked to another cb Skriniar?!
Givenchy
Senior Member
saw that via Di Marzio. apparently Inter don't want to sell though
He we go again , planning for the future when it's NOW that we need action !!
We planned for the future two years ago when we signed 5 or 6 players in the summer all aged 22 ... look how that turned out
Messi983
Senior Member
And he doesn't want to leave because he wants to play CL with Inter.
Messi983
Senior Member
He we go again , planning for the future when it's NOW that we need action !!
We planned for the future two years ago when we signed 5 or 6 players in the summer all aged 22 ... look how that turned out
We will get players like Griezmann and Lenglet who will help us now.
If we can get De Ligt (I doubt) and De Jong (possible) and leave them on loan at Ajax this would be a great deal, don't know why anyone would complain about this.
And that summer of 22 didn't really turned out as bad as many people say. We got a great longterm starter and 2-3 serviceable backups.
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