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Riordon

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Konate, Fabian Ruiz, Lautaro for 2020?

Coutinho, Rakitic, Suarez, Umtiti off. Possible?

Then you would play Busquest as a DM?

Agree with the positions. CB, CM/AM and forward. Also agree with a Konaté and Ruiz but would maybe go for a Moussa Dembele instead of Lautaro
 
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Riordon

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To be fair I didnt watch too much of Aouar. But with Ruiz something seems off to me (as with Ceballos and Alena for example). I dont think they move too well. My standard regarding offensive midfielders is terribly high though. I would rather play with 2 worldclass CMs (hopefully Arthur and Frenkie).

Can see your point. But I don’t consider Ruiz as a restricted offensive midfielder, he is like a 8 who is good offensively because he do a shit ton of defensive work.

Wouldn’t you get another CM for rotation or injuries and go with De Jong, Arthur and Puiq?

Anybody with DM’s suggestions? Bruno Guimaraes is one I heard good think about and is rated the highest midfielder in Brazil right now like Arthur was
 

mc_lovin

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The thing with attacking midfielders is how good they are at their midfield duties. Most of them are great 10's and shit midfielders (while the midfield part is more important). Thats why I would take someone like Arthur over shinier players all day, because his movement is absolutely fantastic. Ruiz is kind of inbetween, a good midfielder and a good attacker. But I didnt see greatness of him in either role yet. That can change of course, but I am fairly confident he wont be the next big thing.

As for midfielders next season: Arthur, Frenkie, Busquets, Roberto and Puig should be set (even if Puig is just midfielder #6). Leaves room for one. A physical box to box or DM would be nice probably. I like Roca, but no way we would go for an Espanyol player.
 

Riordon

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The thing with attacking midfielders is how good they are at their midfield duties. Most of them are great 10's and shit midfielders (while the midfield part is more important). Thats why I would take someone like Arthur over shinier players all day, because his movement is absolutely fantastic. Ruiz is kind of inbetween, a good midfielder and a good attacker. But I didnt see greatness of him in either role yet. That can change of course, but I am fairly confident he wont be the next big thing.

As for midfielders next season: Arthur, Frenkie, Busquets, Roberto and Puig should be set (even if Puig is just midfielder #6). Leaves room for one. A physical box to box or DM would be nice probably. I like Roca, but no way we would go for an Espanyol player.

Fair take on Ruiz. Don’t agree 100% though as he has showed he can do his midfield duties aswell and not only play as a 10.

Yeah, like Roca too. But difficult. Also seen and heard good things about Soumare from Lille.
 

snowy

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Can see your point. But I don’t consider Ruiz as a restricted offensive midfielder, he is like a 8 who is good offensively because he do a shit ton of defensive work.

Wouldn’t you get another CM for rotation or injuries and go with De Jong, Arthur and Puiq?

Anybody with DM’s suggestions? Bruno Guimaraes is one I heard good think about and is rated the highest midfielder in Brazil right now like Arthur was


yeah I've got 1: I really really like Camavinga. He'd be perfect for phasing out Ace DM Busi. Folks might scoff and say he's unproven at 16 but best get him early before his value goes sky high. He had a great perf vs PSG last month

can play DM as well CM equally well

I'll start a page on him!

mc_lov, check out some YT Havertz analysis. Dude is not just all show. He's pure quality! Can even play DM, Midfield and AM

Can play on the right and left as well and is deceptively quick. He was a fussball specialist growing up and despite playing lots of risky through-balls, his passing % last year was +90% :thumbsup:
 

Riordon

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yeah I've got 1: I really really like Camavinga. He'd be perfect for phasing out Ace DM Busi. Folks might scoff and say he's unproven at 16 but best get him early before his value goes sky high. He had a great perf vs PSG last month

can play DM as well CM equally well

I'll start a page on him!

mc_lov, check out some YT Havertz analysis. Dude is not just all show. He's pure quality! Can even play DM, Midfield and AM

Can play on the right and left as well and is deceptively quick. He was a fussball specialist growing up and despite playing lots of risky through-balls, his passing % last year was +90% :thumbsup:

Do you follow Ligue 1 and can shred some light on Soumare from Lille? Rates as the biggest mid talent in France. Saw him last week and he was immense
 

DonAK

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Having followed Lyon a bit and Moussa Dembele, I am confident he's not a player for a top 5 team. I know he's only 23 and that this might backfire later, but I'm very sure of this. Not good enough.

I like Lautaro, but wouldn't sign him unless he has a significant goalscoring season.
 

Riordon

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Having followed Lyon a bit and Moussa Dembele, I am confident he's not a player for a top 5 team. I know he's only 23 and that this might backfire later, but I'm very sure of this. Not good enough.

I like Lautaro, but wouldn't sign him unless he has a significant goalscoring season.

What do you base your stance on Dembele on? High goal scoring for three different teams, great build up, good in the air.

Lautaro is a fine player but another second striker and that role is already covered. I want a true traditional 9 in the mold of Suárez, Eto’o
 

mc_lovin

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mc_lov, check out some YT Havertz analysis. Dude is not just all show. He's pure quality! Can even play DM, Midfield and AM


I watched a few games of Havertz actually. Im undecided. But I dont think its worth splashing 80ME+ on him when our 2 CM spots are set (unless the Arthur-Frenkie combo crashes and burns this season). I would rather go for a Busquets replacement (and a 9).
 

MTL_Barca

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Konate, Fabian Ruiz, Lautaro for 2020?

Coutinho, Rakitic, Suarez, Umtiti off. Possible?

Not if all the money goes to PSG :neymar: :bartomeu:

I think some of that will depend on how the season will go to see if Frenkie-Arthur will be the starting CMs (Frenkie stays CM?), if Griezmann turns full-time LW or can challenge Suarez, where/how will Sergi play etc

But as of today i'd say Coutinho, Rakitic, Vidal and Umtiti will/should leave (hopefully not on loan deals) so at least one new CM/DM and a CB is needed.
 
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DonAK

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What do you base your stance on Dembele on? High goal scoring for three different teams, great build up, good in the air.

Lautaro is a fine player but another second striker and that role is already covered. I want a true traditional 9 in the mold of Suárez, Eto’o

He won't get those crosses and chances to score those headers at Barca. His first touch can be very 50/50 and while his build up play is decent, his decision making makes you lose your hair.

He's talented, but I just don't see something special in him that Suarez, Eto'o had.

I agree with your assessment of Lautaro and even if he was to become an option, I wouldn't sign him unless he scores 20+ goals in a season for Inter.

I also don't think we should rush a #9 signing when we have Messi, Griezmann and likely Neymar in the team next season. If possible I would sign someone like Giroud for a season or two if the right player isn't available.
 
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Riordon

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He won't get those crosses and chances to score those headers at Barca. His first touch can be very 50/50 and while his build up play is decent, his decision making makes you lose your hair.

He's talented, but I just don't see something special in him that Suarez, Eto'o had.

I agree with your assessment of Lautaro and even if he was to become an option, I wouldn't sign him unless he scores 20+ goals in a season for Inter.

I also don't think we should rush a #9 signing when we have Messi, Griezmann and likely Neymar in the team next season. If possible I would sign someone like Giroud for a season or two if the right player isn't available.

Agree with Dembele not being a special talent. Also, can definitely see what you mean regarding the crosses. I do however want a true, traditional 9. Tammy Abraham is another choice but Chelsea will never let him. Maybe Piatek

Then there is Mikel Oyarzabal but too much second striker over him aswell.

Any suggestions for the Busquest position? I like Marc Roca and heard good things about Bruno Guimaraes and Soumare from Lille.
 

snowy

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Do you follow Ligue 1 and can shred some light on Soumare from Lille? Rates as the biggest mid talent in France. Saw him last week and he was immense

TBH I just watch PSG when El Playful Spectacular plays jajaja :neymar:

but yes Soumare is very impressive as well! Crazy how France has so much rising talent. Their NT will be stacked for years :amazed:
 

DonAK

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Agree with Dembele not being a special talent. Also, can definitely see what you mean regarding the crosses. I do however want a true, traditional 9. Tammy Abraham is another choice but Chelsea will never let him. Maybe Piatek

Then there is Mikel Oyarzabal but too much second striker over him aswell.

Any suggestions for the Busquest position? I like Marc Roca and heard good things about Bruno Guimaraes and Soumare from Lille.

Yeah, the market for #9s right now is not very good which is why I don't want to rush it. Obviously the dream would be Mbappé who I believe can play as a pure #9, but that's unlikely to happen.

For Busquets' position it depends on what they're planning to do with de Jong. If they're pushing de Jong back to the CDM position I would be in favour of signing one of Fabian Ruiz or Havertz to take de Jong's current role.

If they plan on playing de Jong as a RCM, then Roca isn't a bad shout. Not as good as someone like Rodri defensively, but probably better at breaking lines and making those passes over the top.

I would like to experiment with a faster, physical CDM though. Don't ask me who though because I don't have any names that fit that mould :lol:
 

Porque

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Celtic friend believes Edouard will be better than Moussa Dembele. Never been too impressed with the latter so best to keep an eye on Edouard before he is snapped up ala Van Dijk, Dembele, Tierney.

Take a look at Bruno Guimarães guys. Best midfielder in Brazil right now and really young. Reminds me of Arthur when he was in Brazil

According to Transfermarkt he has a Spanish passport too. Sign him up.
 
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