Barça's Transfers and Rumors

[God Serena]

Dybala for 100m euros is not an option. The sooner people realize this, the better. Who is good enough for 10m euros? It makes no sense to just disagree with everything and not having another solution.

We have to buy players from Cologne, Malaga, Udinese and Bordeaux. Not important players for PSG, Juve and Chelsea.

Ben Arfa isn't a solution to anything. If we want decent players who can do a decent job for rotational purposes we have Munir. Denis and Rafinha are also capable of operating on the front line and tbh they'd probably prefer it to playing in midfield.

 

[Darko]

Neymar will be our biggest signing this summer said Bartomeu

God, we're turning into Arsenal.

 

[Jombi]

Ben Arfa isn't a solution to anything. If we want decent players who can do a decent job for rotational purposes we have Munir. Denis and Rafinha are also capable of operating on the front line and tbh they'd probably prefer it to playing in midfield.

So what is the solution? Buying superstars for 100m? We cant afford it. Denis and Rafinha hardly score goals, Rafa is slow as a turtle and is utter shite up front, while Munir has yet to prove anything really. I am not thrilled with the idea of Ben Arfa either by any means, but we have to live within our means. If we are only going to buy superstars while counting on Barca B players to provide depth, we will be up for a rude awakening.

 

[God Serena]

So what is the solution? Buying superstars for 100m? We cant afford it. Denis and Rafinha hardly score goals, Rafa is slow as a turtle and is utter shite up front, while Munir has yet to prove anything really. I am not thrilled with the idea of Ben Arfa either by any means, but we have to live within our means. If we are only going to buy superstars while counting on Barca B players to provide depth, we will be up for a rude awakening.

For fuck's sake, why do you keep arguing against things I'm not saying? Where are all these outrageous numbers coming from?

There's a difference between buying superstars and picking up trash. Players in the middle are what we need and Ben Arfa is certainly not in that middle area. He's not likely to be any better than Munir who at least has youth on his side.

 

[Jombi]

For fuck's sake, why do you keep arguing against things I'm not saying? Where are all these outrageous numbers coming from?

There's a difference between buying superstars and picking up trash. Players in the middle are what we need and Ben Arfa is certainly not in that middle area. He's not likely to be any better than Munir who at least has youth on his side.

What does this mean? Players in the middle? We have at most 10-20m for a forward backup. Ben Arfa is free, meaning we can spend more money on defense/midfield. Munir cant dribble, he cant play on the wing, has hardly shown anything and I doubt he would have scored 17 goals in the French league last season for Nice like Ben Arfa did. So what is the solution? Who do you have in mind for 10m-20m?

 

[Galning]

God, we're turning into Arsenal.

Didn't we just win the league? Again?

 

[God Serena]

What does this mean? Players in the middle? We have at most 10-20m for a forward backup. Ben Arfa is free, meaning we can spend more money on defense/midfield. Munir cant dribble, he cant play on the wing, has hardly shown anything and I doubt he would have scored 17 goals in the French league last season for Nice like Ben Arfa did. So what is the solution? Who do you have in mind for 10m-20m?

Just because I don't have any specific ideas of someone who would be better doesn't mean a free transfer of a relatively mediocre player is our only option.

We'd be lucky if Barfa showed up here as good as early-Barca Alexis but once again, the age difference is astronomical. France is a joke of a league and his accomplishments there don't mean a thing, especially when stacked up next to the rest of his career.

 

[Jombi]

Just because I don't have any specific ideas of someone who would be better doesn't mean a free transfer of a relatively mediocre player is our only option.

We'd be lucky if Barfa showed up here as good as early-Barca Alexis but once again, the age difference is astronomical. France is a joke of a league and his accomplishments there don't mean a thing, especially when stacked up next to the rest of his career.

Well, Alexis is only 1 year younger than Ben Arfa and the French league is the 5th best in Europe, and is exporting great players every year and has a great NT. Ben Arfa was even called up for the France preliminary squad for the Euros. I think Munir would struggle greatly to score 10 goals for a mid table French team. Not saying Ben Arfa on a free would be the only option, but if you dont have any other suggestions...

 

[God Serena]

Well, Alexis is only 1 year younger than Ben Arfa

Unless we re-signed Alexis last week without my knowledge that isn't actually relevant (If it were even true at all, Arfa is 29 and Alexis is 27). Alexis when he signed for Barca was 22. Ben Arfa right now is 29.

and the French league is the 5th best in Europe,

Being decent in the 5th best league does not translate to being good enough for the best team in the best league in Europe.

and is exporting great players every year and has a great NT.

Great players leave Serie A. Mediocre players join. Ben Arfa is an import from England. All the best NT players from France are playing in leagues outside of Ligue 1. With that logic Belgium has a great, tough league as well, because their team has a lot of great exported talents and their NT even made it far in the latest World Cup.

Ben Arfa was even called up for the France preliminary squad for the Euros.

And both Munir and Deulofeu have played in World Cup qualifiers for Spain as teenagers.

I think Munir would struggle greatly to score 10 goals for a mid table French team.

That could have easily been said about Ben Arfa if you looked at his career before going there.

Not saying Ben Arfa on a free would be the only option, but if you dont have any other suggestions...

I'm an advertising major, not a football scout.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Being decent in the 5th best league does not translate to being good enough for the best team in the best league in Europe.

They are 6th best league right now according to Uefa ranking .and I might tend to agree .right now they are closer to being a league that compete with Portuguese ,Russian leagues than with the elites of Europe tbh

 

[Jombi]

They are 6th best league right now according to Uefa ranking .and I might tend to agree .right now they are closer to being a league that compete with Portuguese ,Russian leagues than with the elites of Europe tbh

And these are the leagues we need to look at, together with the Italian and German league, just like other teams do. We can forget about superstars from PSG or Juve this summer. Not gonna happen. The only other suggestion I see people mention is Gameiro for 30m instead of Ben Arfa for free. Same age, Gameiro has never had such a season as Ben Arfa had in Ligue 1 and has had his first great season at the age of 29, not unlike Ben Arfa. I dont buy the idea that Gameiro is more "proven" for us. Just like Vidal and Arda, Gameiro plays in a team that plays nothing like us at all.

 

[Darko]

Didn't we just win the league? Again?

Slowly turning into Arsenal then, we almost bottled it.

 

[khaled_a_d]

And these are the leagues we need to look at, together with the Italian and German league, just like other teams do. We can forget about superstars from PSG or Juve this summer. Not gonna happen. The only other suggestion I see people mention is Gameiro for 30m instead of Ben Arfa for free. Same age, Gameiro has never had such a season as Ben Arfa had in Ligue 1 and has had his first great season at the age of 29, not unlike Ben Arfa. I dont buy the idea that Gameiro is more "proven" for us. Just like Vidal and Arda, Gameiro plays in a team that plays nothing like us at all.

Ok ,if you want to believe that this is the way ,fine . I won't argue with you.
But giving Vidal as an example for saying Gameiro isn't fit for us because he is from a club who plays nothing like us?You are kidding right?
We have bought Alves,Keita,Adriano,Rakitic from Sevilla and all has been gr8 fit here .Vidal is even gr8 fit here .just because Lucho gave him a wake up call and didn't put him on bench for 4 games doesn't mean he is a bad deal or a bad fit . that is literally jumping to conclusion
Sevilla has been our best feeder for players since the start of Pep era man.

 

[Jombi]

Ok ,if you want to believe that this is the way ,fine . I won't argue with you.
But giving Vidal as an example for saying Gameiro isn't fit for us because he is from a club who plays nothing like us?You are kidding right?
We have bought Alves,Keita,Adriano,Rakitic from Sevilla and all has been gr8 fit here .Vidal is even gr8 fit here .just because Lucho gave him a wake up call and didn't put him on bench for 4 games doesn't mean he is a bad deal or a bad fit . that is literally jumping to conclusion
Sevilla has been our best feeder for players since the start of Pep era man.

They've had like 6 different coaches since then man. They do not play the same as Emery's teams at all and Gameiro has only managed to have one great season under Emery. Vidal was supposed to adapt quickly because he was proven, but hasnt played at all and we'll probably sell him if we get a good offer (I doubt it though).

 

[khaled_a_d]

They've had like 6 different coaches since then man. They do not play the same as Emery's teams at all and Gameiro has only managed to have one great season under Emery. Vidal was supposed to adapt quickly because he was proven, but hasnt played at all and we'll probably sell him if we get a good offer (I doubt it though).

Vidal has been doing just fine .he then got injured and when came back Lucho benched him .every report about it suggest it was a behavior problem and he got the treatment Pique got last year after classico . there is no question of fit here and probably no question of quality either
And we got Rakitic from Emery team .and all of their coach played totally non-barca football .
You don't want Gameiro? I am fine with that .but at least try a logical argument . Not an argument about Sevilla is a club that their players doesn't fit Barca.