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serghei

Senior Member
Leaving Filipe Luis out of the WC will remain the worst decision by a football coach till the end of time. No exaggeration. Absolutely disgraceful.

It depends. If they win the World Cup nobody will care that Scolari didn't select Filipe Luis. If he brings the WC in Brasil, he will be a national hero there. Each coach makes his own moves and is to be judged according to his results.
 

Behrox

Vice President of FC Barcelona
Leaving Filipe Luis out of the WC will remain the worst decision by a football coach till the end of time. No exaggeration. Absolutely disgraceful.
2nd most the first is reserved for Romero over Willy in Argentina an infinite number of facepalms can't possibly justify it
 

BrazilFan

New member
It depends. If they win the World Cup nobody will care that Scolari didn't select Filipe Luis. If he brings the WC in Brasil, he will be a national hero there. Each coach makes his own moves and is to be judged according to his results.

Even if he doesn't no one will care he didn't bring Felipe or Miranda b/c this is one of the first list w/o any controversy. There isn't anyone mad in Brazil that he didn't pick those two. Neutral fans are the ones uspet.
 

Hamzah

High Definition Member
He would start Marcelo anyway, it doesn't matter, also Uruguay already won it in Brazil. It's the saddest moment in Brazil football history.
 
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Flavia

Guest
Even if he doesn't no one will care he didn't bring Felipe or Miranda b/c this is one of the first list w/o any controversy. There isn't anyone mad in Brazil that he didn't pick those two. Neutral fans are the ones uspet.

Not true. Most pundits here in brazil are criticizing his selection of Henrique. Even the legend Tostão said a few words about it.
 
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beautifulgame

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Not true. Most pundits here in brazil are criticizing his selection of Henrique. Even the legend Tostão said a few words about it.

i suppose his selection of henrique maybe due to his past experience of working with and the fact that he can jump into defensive midfield... but so can luiz.. so i'm not exactly sure

You guys understand that it essentially the same team from the confederations cup that thrash Spain and Italy in the confederation cup.

Scolari goes by international form and chemistry over talent and popularity.Lucas Moura hasn't played well for Brazil. He's very talented but he couldn't outperform Bernard which I said form > talent.

Miranda and Felipe are disappointing omissions but Miranda would of been 4th choice, does it even matter, they rarely play. He's not starting over Luiz and Silva who has been the starters under Scolari in fact both are his captains. In Felipe case, it just Maxwell did well in Marcelo absence in a couple of games so I'm guessing that why he got the nod, Felipe wasn't bad when he played for the NT though. Coutinho probably deserved a call up before hand to evaluate but his spot is pretty competitive.

Fred and Jo are not typical Brazilian forwards but Fred has 11 or 12 goals in like 13 games for Scolari. I can't see how you argue that but people just don't like Fred. Not to many Brazil fans care for Jo though. We just don't have the depth at that position. Pato and Damiao are really not that much better. Someone will mention Costa who Scolari did call before he even blew up this season. He played I think 2 friendlies for us. Didn't really show much and he wasn't that good during the Confederation cup to cap-tie him. We blame FIFA more than Scolari for that disaster.

yes, brazil need a neat finisher up front perhaps more than a guy like costa. fred is the most clinical of all those mentioned. i hope his fitness is good though. Personally, I'd prefer Damiao as the other striker but he hasn't got a run for scolari and jo has so i suppose it was obvious.

one of the big issues for scolari was he couldn't waste time tinkering. he needed to settle on a squad which is less risky to miss out on a couple good on form players but build a cohesive unit over time.

still.. players like dede and luis have been good for quite some time.. he could have played them in earlier.

Even if he doesn't no one will care he didn't bring Felipe or Miranda b/c this is one of the first list w/o any controversy. There isn't anyone mad in Brazil that he didn't pick those two. Neutral fans are the ones uspet.

this is a great point that comes straight from brazil!!

when scolari and parreira were given their respective positions it was with as much political insight as sporting. they brought the last two coaches to do it so no one could argue they should have gotten the other. this is part of the logic that scolari used with this selection.. he left little room for debate by selecting a carefully selected group in the beginning with very little room for any newcomers and this protects the team from extensive media scrutiny as well has himself and the FA of course.

in my opinon, politically (this is a major part like it or not) and sportingly they have been quite wise even if i'd like to see a couple different players in there myself.
 

BrazilFan

New member
Not true. Most pundits here in brazil are criticizing his selection of Henrique. Even the legend Tostão said a few words about it.

You are correct. The Henrique choice was the only one but it wasn't controversial like Dunga omitting Ronaldinho or Scolari omitting Romario. There was very little backlash like their usually would with Scolari choice. Henrique is the 4th choice defender. They rarely play if ever.

one of the big issues for scolari was he couldn't waste time tinkering. he needed to settle on a squad which is less risky to miss out on a couple good on form players but build a cohesive unit over time.

still.. players like dede and luis have been good for quite some time.. he could have played them in earlier.

People don't understand this. International teams don't have the luxury like club teams to train everyday. Scolari had to fix Mano mess and build a team in a short amount of time. The team from the Confederation cup was always going to be the core because he had time to work with that particular group. They understand the tactics and the system. He built the team chemistry during that point as well. It was always going to be tough for certain players to get in when 16 or so spots was already guaranteed.
 
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beautifulgame

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People don't understand this. International teams don't have the luxury like club teams to train everyday. Scolari had to fix Mano mess and build a team in a short amount of time. The team from the Confederation cup was always going to be the core because he had time to work with that particular group. They understand the tactics and the system. He built the team chemistry during that point as well. It was always going to be tough for certain players to get in when 16 or so spots was already guaranteed.
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exactly. as you mentioned earlier, scolari knows brazil having been there and witnessed it. he avoided the romario issue he had and the ronnie issue dunga had. brazil is more with this team than they have been in the past which is even bigger considering being at home.

mano team was a mess and so far scolari has done a great deal to take the pressure off the team which was gonna be a heavy burden, he has already eased it quite a bit. when mano left there was a lot of tension.

further, tactically, like you said he has got the team playing like they should more or less in a brief time. of course the confed is a couple levels lower than world cup in terms of play and intensity and room for error but brazil look up to the task thus far as much as could be asked.
 

Jesse1509

Detalles, detalles, siempre detalles
It's not a ridiculous selection. I do think, though, that Brazil may lack a 'plan B'. it seems Scolari's way of selecting is similar to Dunga's: chemistry over form, which is not that strange at all. Still, I would've picked some other players, like Diego Alves, Miranda and Filipe Luis, but oh well.....that's not the major issue Brazil has imo. Their midfield will have a hard job when they're trailing, I suppose, because they haven't got creativity in abundance. Although Brazil appears to have a solid team, I can easily imagine them having another 2010-exit, should they trail against a defensively solid team.
 

ManusXavi

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Lol :rofl1: I was thinking the same thing a few pages back
 
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Flavia

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CBf sent 30 names for fia. The 23 already known + the 7 reserves:

Miranda (Atlético de Madri), Filipe Luis (Atlético de Madri), Rafinha (Bayern de Munique), Lucas Leiva (Liverpool), Alan Kardec (São Paulo), Lucas (PSG) and Diego Cavalieri (Fluminense)
 

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