Maradona37
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Terrible player. He's a magician in how he's managed to convince a lot of people he's world-class.
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Messigician
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Common trend with united
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Wouldnt surprise me if 10Hag puts him on the bench soon
Maradona37
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He's been awful since long before that some reckon. He's just generally the type of guy who gives the ball away too much and only thrives in chaos.
Don Juan Laporta Estruch
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In his defence he is playing out of position. He is far too deep. He is a number 10 and should be playing behind the striker. Like he did when he had his best season under Solksjaer during COVID.
Maradona37
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He has certain qualities a number 10 needs. By far his biggest weakness though is that he's not a playmaker who keeps the game ticking, but a player who looks for the final ball almost immediately. One of his biggest flaws is that he cannot dribble and cannot take the ball on the half-turn and wriggle out of tight spaces to then suddenly advance on the opposition backline, or even find another player. The two City Silvas and even James Maddison don't have Bruno fernandes's stats but they are so good at simply playing through teams with their cute little passes and dribbles.
Maradona37
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From his thread on Redcafe - worrying where football is going
Total-Football
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With muller retiring soon this will be the indisputed most punchable face in world football
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Maradona37
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Another wanky game but the stats maniacs will quote that in his stats at the end of the season because he scored a penalty, and forget how abysmal he was. The fact he seems to get away with it and people think he's been their lone good signing since Ferguson (even Neville said so at the goal) tells me he might well be the biggest fraud in the history of the Premier League.
The guy is so limited, his shooting was abysmal today and if I was a Manc I would be so frustrated with how often he boots the ball straight up the pitch to the opposition defence. Total hail marys.
As it is I hate them and am delighted they see this clown as a key player as they'll go nowhere building the team around his erratic passing.
The guy is so limited, his shooting was abysmal today and if I was a Manc I would be so frustrated with how often he boots the ball straight up the pitch to the opposition defence. Total hail marys.
As it is I hate them and am delighted they see this clown as a key player as they'll go nowhere building the team around his erratic passing.
Maradona37
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I heard this toolbag say in his post-match interview 'the fantasy players won't be happy with you taking the second goal away from me'.
This isn't the first time he's referred to FPL. Why is the imbecile so concerned with that? It should never be on his mind, and he wasn't being funny either. I bet he is constantly fretting over who has more points than him on the game. He genuinely does seem like a thick rodent who is more interested in accumulating stats than being part of a cohesive team.
He's constantly spamming Hollywoods and playing like he has to give an assist with every pass. He plays football like a moron.
This isn't the first time he's referred to FPL. Why is the imbecile so concerned with that? It should never be on his mind, and he wasn't being funny either. I bet he is constantly fretting over who has more points than him on the game. He genuinely does seem like a thick rodent who is more interested in accumulating stats than being part of a cohesive team.
He's constantly spamming Hollywoods and playing like he has to give an assist with every pass. He plays football like a moron.
Maradona37
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They keep coping and clinging to him 'playing really well and keeping it simple for Portugal' on Redcafe. But he actually doesn't - he does fairly well against inferior teams to Portugal in qualifiers and Nations League games. However, he's absolutely rubbish and a bottler in actual tournaments he plays in. They're clueless about him on there, especially guys like 'Scandi red'. 'Gabriel Djemba Bebe' and 'Pogue'.
Scandi Red asked if people are sure Amorim will require his attacking midfielders to dribble
That's the level of idiocy, cluelessness and fanboyism of him and some others on there.
I think this guy is a litmus test for footballers. It sounds arrogant, but if you think he's world-class or anything more than a moderately good player it sets alarm bells ringing about your knowledge for me. He has serious flaws in his game and has never competed for a CL or league title in his life. The way he forces them to play is a huge part of why they are so bad for me.
Scandi Red asked if people are sure Amorim will require his attacking midfielders to dribble
That's the level of idiocy, cluelessness and fanboyism of him and some others on there.I think this guy is a litmus test for footballers. It sounds arrogant, but if you think he's world-class or anything more than a moderately good player it sets alarm bells ringing about your knowledge for me. He has serious flaws in his game and has never competed for a CL or league title in his life. The way he forces them to play is a huge part of why they are so bad for me.
Maradona37
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He is one of the posterboys for the stats era where players can play badly and hide it with one moment - but because so many are obsessed with G/A it doesn't matter in their eyes. Haaland, Bellingham, Ronaldo, Rashford, Bale to a lesser extent and a few others also lean into this. It's very RM and MU centric as they are teams who play mostly in moments and generally get outplayed but their ruthlessness in box wins them games.
Was absymal yesterday - constantly miscontrolling balls, gave the ball away a few times most notably at that stupid free-kick Haaland intercepted, then missed a chance as a cherry on top.
He was very poor, but then he gets to score a penalty from Amad's hard work. Like against Chelsea, Fernandes was woeful but disguised it with a penalty. Then at the end of the season we will have dullards crowing about his G/A stats, which include these sort of scabby goals in awful performances in games they could have lost partly due to his mistakes.
Amad is a much more talented player than him, and I have said that for months now. He's no world beater, but Amad is about the only player in their entire squad who has good technique, close control, ball manipulation in tight spaces. Diallo is like the anti-Garnacho or anti-Fernandes.
Iniesta never needed defending with G/A stats. Nor Hazard, Ribery, Messi. Those are proper footballers and their talent stands for itself outside of stats. Most people quoting these stats dont even watch these players play. Nobody cared about goals per game or assist stats in R9's day. Pathetic what football has turned into.
Was absymal yesterday - constantly miscontrolling balls, gave the ball away a few times most notably at that stupid free-kick Haaland intercepted, then missed a chance as a cherry on top.
He was very poor, but then he gets to score a penalty from Amad's hard work. Like against Chelsea, Fernandes was woeful but disguised it with a penalty. Then at the end of the season we will have dullards crowing about his G/A stats, which include these sort of scabby goals in awful performances in games they could have lost partly due to his mistakes.
Amad is a much more talented player than him, and I have said that for months now. He's no world beater, but Amad is about the only player in their entire squad who has good technique, close control, ball manipulation in tight spaces. Diallo is like the anti-Garnacho or anti-Fernandes.
Iniesta never needed defending with G/A stats. Nor Hazard, Ribery, Messi. Those are proper footballers and their talent stands for itself outside of stats. Most people quoting these stats dont even watch these players play. Nobody cared about goals per game or assist stats in R9's day. Pathetic what football has turned into.
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Maradona37
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He's doing well right now, to be fair to him. At least for Man United. He deserves credit and he does have a good degree of talent.
But I still maintain that - while he's a quality player in some ways - he's a level or two below world-class.
He's a weird player in that he can produce great moments with his (erratic) passing, and his set-pieces have greatly improved this season. He works hard too (though sometimes it's working silly, rather than smart, as he leaves gaps in midfield).. But he has weaknesses as well - he cannot dribble, his short passing game can be erratic, he's not great in tight spaces or on the half turn, he plays in moments rather than controlling games, he gives away some stupid passes that end up in counter-attacks for the opponent. But there's no doubt that as a moments player, and when he does get his passing range correct, he can be devastating.
I maintain that he's able to rack up G/A and look so prominent for United because everything goes through him and they don't have many other good or creative players. He's at the centre of everything so able to do his 'hero ball' act like a lesser Gerrard. People say 'imagine his stats if he played in prime Man City' - but football does not work that way. In Fernandes's case the reason he's able to produce such stats is BECAUSE he's playing in a team that indulges his every whim. At prime City he'd be just another player and not everything would go through him, and his G/A assist stats would take a massive hit. I think he might be a better player though because Pep would teach him to play with discipline.
I still think he is a good example of a player getting too much credit due to worship of stats though. Good player, on his day very good, but has some flaws which prevent him from being a true world-class player. For example his stats piss on the two City Silvas, but those two have/had a more qualitative impact on the game (David is retired and Bernardo has been poor for a while) simply by keeping the game ticking and flowing throughout the 90 minutes by doing what I call 'great footballer' things i.e. passing well, dribbling to create space, running the game. Stuff that isn't really that easy to track by stats, and certainly not by G/A.
I think players can be matchwinners without producing great G/A.
But I still maintain that - while he's a quality player in some ways - he's a level or two below world-class.
He's a weird player in that he can produce great moments with his (erratic) passing, and his set-pieces have greatly improved this season. He works hard too (though sometimes it's working silly, rather than smart, as he leaves gaps in midfield).. But he has weaknesses as well - he cannot dribble, his short passing game can be erratic, he's not great in tight spaces or on the half turn, he plays in moments rather than controlling games, he gives away some stupid passes that end up in counter-attacks for the opponent. But there's no doubt that as a moments player, and when he does get his passing range correct, he can be devastating.
I maintain that he's able to rack up G/A and look so prominent for United because everything goes through him and they don't have many other good or creative players. He's at the centre of everything so able to do his 'hero ball' act like a lesser Gerrard. People say 'imagine his stats if he played in prime Man City' - but football does not work that way. In Fernandes's case the reason he's able to produce such stats is BECAUSE he's playing in a team that indulges his every whim. At prime City he'd be just another player and not everything would go through him, and his G/A assist stats would take a massive hit. I think he might be a better player though because Pep would teach him to play with discipline.
I still think he is a good example of a player getting too much credit due to worship of stats though. Good player, on his day very good, but has some flaws which prevent him from being a true world-class player. For example his stats piss on the two City Silvas, but those two have/had a more qualitative impact on the game (David is retired and Bernardo has been poor for a while) simply by keeping the game ticking and flowing throughout the 90 minutes by doing what I call 'great footballer' things i.e. passing well, dribbling to create space, running the game. Stuff that isn't really that easy to track by stats, and certainly not by G/A.
I think players can be matchwinners without producing great G/A.
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