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Who will win the Bundesliga this season?

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FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Yep.

Lewandowski for example ran down his contract at Dortmund so he could join rivals Bayern for free. That wouldn?t happen in other top leagues. Imagine Salah running down his contract to join City or United for free, or same with Barca/Real.

Exactly and if it would happen, pigs heads should fly, like in Figos case.. Football needs rivalry. Without rivalry you have shitty league.
 

Vilarrubi

New member
Exactly and if it would happen, pigs heads should fly, like in Figos case.. Football needs rivalry. Without rivalry you have shitty league.

Yeah, only thing with Figo he cost 60m for Madrid which was a record at the time. Lewa running down his contract and going for free is crazy.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
@iMiaSanMia
? 4h
Bayern will face the German national team in a friendly game with the entire income from the match going to FCB as a compensation for Hansi Flick's departure. The game could take place this year [@Koch_AZ]

That piece of cringe news enforces the point once again.
Bayern = Bundesliga = German NT

Saddening on so many respects
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
@iMiaSanMia
? 4h
Bayern will face the German national team in a friendly game with the entire income from the match going to FCB as a compensation for Hansi Flick's departure. The game could take place this year [@Koch_AZ]

That piece of cringe news enforces the point once again.
Bayern = Bundesliga = German NT

Saddening on so many respects

I think it hurts Bayern more than anything in the long run. Their two great CL seasons in the last 10 years have come in the wake of a string of failures/disappointments. With stiffer competition from Dortmund like they had in 2010-2013, they could have achieved more in the last decade.
 

messi2140

6racies Xavi
@iMiaSanMia
? 4h
Bayern will face the German national team in a friendly game with the entire income from the match going to FCB as a compensation for Hansi Flick's departure. The game could take place this year [@Koch_AZ]

That piece of cringe news enforces the point once again.
Bayern = Bundesliga = German NT

Saddening on so many respects

No way this is real. This has to be some kind of joke.
 

Richard.H

Senior Member
So wait, Flick is really leaving? Why? Makes no sense. With Lewandowski they would beat PSG and probably cruise to the title.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
No way this is real. This has to be some kind of joke.

It probably is real. Bayern is looking to get a transfer fee from the DFB for Flick, which the DFB is not willing to pay. This is Bayern's way to get themselves compensated.

When Bayern speaks, German football trembles.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
So wait, Flick is really leaving? Why? Makes no sense. With Lewandowski they would beat PSG and probably cruise to the title.

He is leaving not because of their CL exit, actually pretty much everybody at Bayern, especially the current and outgoing Bayern CEO KHR and Bayern dressing room wanted him to stay. He is leaving because of his conflict with Bayern's sporting director and board member "Brazzo" Salihamidzic, who he doesn't see eye to eye with on a few things, especially transfer decisions.
 

Richard.H

Senior Member
He is leaving not because of their CL exit, actually pretty much everybody at Bayern, especially the current and outgoing Bayern CEO KHR and Bayern dressing room wanted him to stay. He is leaving because of his conflict with Bayern's sporting director and board member "Brazzo" Salihamidzic, who he doesn't see eye to eye with on a few things, especially transfer decisions.

Wow thanks, didn't know. Been out of the loop regarding most news outside of Spain.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Older members here, remember this post? :lol:

Thanks for pointing out the rivalries correct, because Dortmund-Bayern rivalry is indeed pretty recent (although they were rivals in the mid-late 90s too).

Other than that, the last paragraph contains a lot of wrongness. :p

1. Bayern have a rampant history of systematically weakening league opponents: Some examples to put things into perspective:

- Calle de Haye and Lothar Matthäus from Borussia Mönchengladbach in the eighties, weakening the only real rival in the league.

- Mid-eighties: Nürnberg becomes a serious contender: Bayern sign Hans Dorfner, Stefan Reuter, Roland Grahammer and Manfred Schwabl, effectively banishing Nürnberg to mid table again.

- 1989: Köln become a serious competitor: Bayern buy their by far best and most important player Jürgen Kohler.

- 90s: KSC becomes a serious contender: Bayern sign over the course of a few years Michael Sternkopf, Oliver Kreuzer, Mehmet Scholl, Oliver Kahn, Thorsten Fink and Michael Tarnat. In 1998, KSC goes to second division

- 1991: Kaiserslautern wins the league: Bayern buy Bruno Labbadia. Two years later, they buy Marcel Witeczeck and Ciriaco Sforza. 1994, Kaiserslautern go to second division

- 1995: Bremen become a serious competitor: Bayern buy Andreas Herzog and sign Rehhagel, one year later they buy Basler too. And the Bremen-case repeats here: 2005 they buy Ismael, two years later Klose, 2008 they buy Borowski. They even signed Jan Schlaudraff just so that Bremen can't get him.

- Stuttgart case: Bayern destroy the 'magic triangle' by signing Giovane Elber.

- Around the turn of the millenium, Leverkusen becomes a strong opponent: 2001 Bayern sign Kovac, 2002 it's Ballack and Ze Roberto, Lucio in 2004.

I'll stop here and believe me, this list goes on and on and on. Trying to relativize that with the Reus-transfer is inappropriate. And fyi, Dortmund signed players from Bundesliga teams too - but not to systematically drive them out of competition, unlike Bayern, who have a recurring scheme here. Götze and probably Lewa are a part of this scheme.

2. Klopp is a mindgame specialist, at least equal to Mourinho. Comparing him with Hoene?? though is not going to happen, because at no point did Klopp try to destroy careers, much unlike Hoene??. Google what he did to Willi Lemke, to Christoph Daum or the referee Helmut Krug or to the management of 1860 München for that matter.
 

Vilarrubi

New member
I think it hurts Bayern more than anything in the long run. Their two great CL seasons in the last 10 years have come in the wake of a string of failures/disappointments. With stiffer competition from Dortmund like they had in 2010-2013, they could have achieved more in the last decade.


Losing to that Chelsea in Allianz Arena is such a huge L and isn’t talked about enough.


Imagine losing CL Final in Camp Nou to a team who wasn’t tipped to win. Imo that would hurt more than our Liverpool/Bayern losses. Be a tough one to get over.
 

Catta

Senior Member
Imagine Barca asking for compensation from the Spanish national team. The whole country and media would shit on Barca.
 

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