Bundesliga

Who will win the Bundesliga this season?

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hamad138

Banned
For the sake of bundesliga, get rid of this 50+1 rule.

Yea u get Oil Owner, but due FFP they are limited. Or do u want to see bayern winning 20 years. U can complain about Oil Owner but because of that the Premier League is the most exciting
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
For the sake of bundesliga, get rid of this 50+1 rule.

Yea u get Oil Owner, but due FFP they are limited. Or do u want to see bayern winning 20 years. U can complain about Oil Owner but because of that the Premier League is the most exciting

What is the 50+1 rule?
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
No Investor can buy the club , no oil money bassically. Their are no owners of the club

Ah okay, so a club is required to be majority owned by club members. Don't see how that's bad for the league, but then again I don't know much about the dynamics of BuLi and how things work there and why Bayern has such a massive stronghold.
 

hamad138

Banned
Ah okay, so a club is required to be majority owned by club members. Don't see how that's bad for the league, but then again I don't know much about the dynamics of BuLi and how things work there and why Bayern has such a massive stronghold.

The teams dont have the money to compete with bayern. Bayern buys the best player from their opponent and the biggest Talents in the league. The Talents then become sub foreever.
Small teams take the talents on loan to do the work for bayern.
Cycle repeat, bayern do not allow any competetion, and club cant do anything because short of money. Only Wolfsburg can match them because theyre owned by VW( which is basically the same as OIL money)
 
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Ryu Hayabusa

Guest
Ah okay, so a club is required to be majority owned by club members. Don't see how that's bad for the league, but then again I don't know much about the dynamics of BuLi and how things work there and why Bayern has such a massive stronghold.

That rule is great and which is why fans in Germany are usually much more involved with their clubs than in England for example, especially in the stadium (aside from having much better infrastructure as well, I guess). Also it allows for consitency. We all know what happened to Malaga, Monaco, Liverpool etc.

Of course, it also allows the present behemoth to preserve the status quo... so that is an obvious disadvantage.
 
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Ryu Hayabusa

Guest
The teams dont have the money to compete with bayern. Bayern buys the best player from their opponent and the biggest Talents in the league. The Talents then become sub foreever.


Sorry, you don't know what you are talking about. You merely repeat stupid stereotypes about "Buyern".
Just look at the current squad and the signings in the past few years and you will realize that the quoted passage is nothing but utter bullshit.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
You can't deny that Bayern is still literally out of the others club league .they can't compete with them economically
Germany is Europe biggest economy ,it will be a dream for investors ,better infrastructure than England,better academies coaches etc .with EPL itself look like saturated with investors Germany would be heaven for investors even with the stupid FFF ,you can't deny as a League if it is opened for investors sky is the limit for them.they will have every thing to be the best league in the world
That said it protects the football culture there ,the league is televised freely ,the number of games is limited for the best of the NT and football reasons rather than elongating it for sake of money ,ticket price is reasonable as far as I know .it is better for their own German fans so respect to them
 
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Ryu Hayabusa

Guest
You can't deny that Bayern is still literally out of the others club league .they can't compete with them economically
Germany is Europe biggest economy ,it will be a dream for investors ,better infrastructure than England,better academies coaches etc .with EPL itself look like saturated with investors Germany would be heaven for investors even with the stupid FFF ,you can't deny as a League if it is opened for investors sky is the limit for them.they will have every thing to be the best league in the world
That said it protects the football culture there ,the league is televised freely ,the number of games is limited for the best of the NT and football reasons rather than elongating it for sake of money ,ticket price is reasonable as far as I know .it is better for their own German fans so respect to them

i didn't deny that at all, if you were to read my posting again, quite the contrary actually ;)

And yes, it would certainly be an interesting experiment, but at the same time it could also go horribly wrong, leaving clubs with a lot of tradition to rot if said investors would decide to turn their attention elsewhere on a whim. Also, Germans are somwhat conservative when it comes to these things. Not sure all of the fans would welcome a majority shareholder investor with open arms, no matter the potential benefit.
 

hamad138

Banned
i didn't deny that at all, if you were to read my posting again, quite the contrary actually ;)

And yes, it would certainly be an interesting experiment, but at the same time it could also go horribly wrong, leaving clubs with a lot of tradition to rot if said investors would decide to turn their attention elsewhere on a whim. Also, Germans are somwhat conservative when it comes to these things. Not sure all of the fans would welcome a majority shareholder investor with open arms, no matter the potential benefit.

Well tradition clubs are facing the relegation battle, hsv dortmund stuttgart, and money teams like wolfsburg hoffenheim are top

And germany doeasnt have free football, only replays of goals the next day
 
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Ryu Hayabusa

Guest
Well tradition clubs are facing the relegation battle, hsv dortmund stuttgart, and money teams like wolfsburg hoffenheim are top

And germany doeasnt have free football, only replays of goals the next day


Again, you don't seem to know quite what you are talking about.

A matchday is split between three days, usually Friday, Saturday and Sunday, with one occupying the friday slot (usually an unattractive match in terms of what clubs face off), and two on Sunday. Obviously Saturday is the day where most stuff happens. The Sportschau, which you can watch in free-TV, brings you extensive reports on all those matches including the match on friday on saturday. For a few years now, one match on saturday was made pay-tv exclusive however to make it more attractive to buy pay-tv Bundesliga packages. But still, the overwhelming majority of matches are shown in the Sportschau only 1-2 hours after they have ended.
Also the German Cup is in free-TV.

Dortmund clearly don't fight a relegation battle now because they lack the funds. Same goes for Stuttgart and HSV. Both clubs have been managed horribly in recent past.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Again, you don't seem to know quite what you are talking about.

A matchday is split between three days, usually Friday, Saturday and Sunday, with one occupying the friday slot (usually an unattractive match in terms of what clubs face off), and two on Sunday. Obviously Saturday is the day where most stuff happens. The Sportschau, which you can watch in free-TV, brings you extensive reports on all those matches including the match on friday on saturday. For a few years now, one match on saturday was made pay-tv exclusive however to make it more attractive to buy pay-tv Bundesliga packages. But still, the overwhelming majority of matches are shown in the Sportschau only 1-2 hours after they have ended.Also the German Cup is in free-TV.

Dortmund clearly don't fight a relegation battle now because they lack the funds. Same goes for Stuttgart and HSV. Both clubs have been managed horribly in recent past.

So you can't watch most of the games live unless you buy some sort of paid package?
 

DrPepper

New member
So you can't watch most of the games live unless you buy some sort of paid package?

Yes. You can only watch two Bundesliga games in free tv per season. The opening match of the season and also the opening match of the second half of the season, iirc.

But I think it's the same or similar with the BPL or La Liga.
 

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