Carlos Tevez

[Canto]

Still think you need 2 more players to replace the goals. Say for instance Valencia gets 6 a season and Owen gets 10. You still need another 25 or so to just replace CR's goal tally really.

Valencia is a good player but will he get more assists than Ronaldo? depends how he fits in really.

Alas I also think you need a central midfielder if you go back to traditional 442 as I am sorry but I think that central midfield would get gangbanged by top clubs. Last season you had 3 in the middle meaning you had more power there. But if you go back to traditional 442 for my money you will need a powerful centre mid alongside carrick or hargreaves or Fletcher. That is why I continue to say Paul Scholes will be the hardest player to replace.

I dunno i think we will find the goals from somewhere now that Rooney is out of Ronaldos shadow i belive he can get 30 goals this season and if Berbatov can find his Spurs form again he will get 20-25 goals this season Owen will cheap in with 10 if not more he has all the motivation he needs with it been world cup year and with people saying he was finished!

I think he will he won't go for glory as much as Ronaldo would and he is a better crosser IMO i'm not saying he will replace Ronaldo because you can't he is the best player in the world IMO but Valencia will be a good signing for us!

I agree i said it on the forum I'm a member on that i think we need another left winger and an attacking midfielder!As you say and i believe you're right that our midfield when it comes to playing the big teams gets shown up and we lose the midfield battle too much!Our record against the bigs sides last year says it all really(lost to ye twice Arsenal lost once and drew one drew one aginst Chelsea and beat them and lost to Barcelona)So one win from 7 of the top class sides isint good enough IMO

If we got a midfield of something like this we would be very strong IMO

----------------------Hargreaves---------------------

Valencia------------------------------------Young/Sanchez/Robben

----------------------J.Cole/Snjider---------------------

Its unlikely we would get J.Cole but if we put in a cheeky bid you never know

 

[Gnegneri]

Hargreaves won't be playing soon

Where' Carrick? Fletcher? not a strong midfield imo.

 

[Canto]

Hargreaves won't be playing soon

He is scheduled back for October i believe excuse the cliche but he will be like a new signing

 

[blueduck]

He is scheduled back for October i believe excuse the cliche but he will be like a new signing

Well Hargreaves wasn't exactly a world beater when he was fit.

United will go back to the tradtional 4-4-2 next season. You need to replace Scholes, Giggs and VDS as they are past it imo.

-----------------?-----------------

Rafael---Ferdinand---Vidic------Evra

Valencia--Carrick---Anderson------?

---------Rooney----Berbatov-------

I agree with Ed, top teams will tear you apart if that is your centre midfield.

Gerrard, Mascherano and Alonso at Liverpool and Lampard, Essien, Mikel or Ballack at Chelsea. In the top 4, only Arsenal will have a worse centre midfield than United next season. imo.

 

[Beast]

playing Anderson as a CM is still one of the biggest waste of time , talent since we tried to play Baptista as a DM ...

u just need to see Anderson of Porto and compare him to the crap in United

 

[blueduck]

playing Anderson as a CM is still one of the biggest waste of time , talent since we tried to play Baptista as a DM ...

u just need to see Anderson of Porto and compare him to the crap in United

He's got the talent, but his shooting lets him down.

 

[Canto]

Well Hargreaves wasn't exactly a world beater when he was fit.

United will go back to the tradtional 4-4-2 next season. You need to replace Scholes, Giggs and VDS as they are past it imo.

-----------------?-----------------

Rafael---Ferdinand---Vidic------Evra

Valencia--Carrick---Anderson------?

---------Rooney----Berbatov-------

I agree with Ed, top teams will tear you apart if that is your centre midfield.

Gerrard, Mascherano and Alonso at Liverpool and Lampard, Essien, Mikel or Ballack at Chelsea. In the top 4, only Arsenal will have a worse centre midfield than United next season. imo.

I thought he was very good TBH he sort of goes unnoticed but he is very neat and very effictive!BTW how can you rate Tevez and not Hargo?

Foster will probably step in for VDS this season as for left wing and center mid I've said thats areas we need to strengthen with either a creative midfielder coming(someone like Inestia or Xavi) or a goalscorer(Lampard)

IMHO i think Arsenals is even better then ours at the minute but if we sign quality left winger and a quality center midfield then we will be better

 

[Red Devil]

Well Hargreaves wasn't exactly a world beater when he was fit.

United will go back to the tradtional 4-4-2 next season. You need to replace Scholes, Giggs and VDS as they are past it imo.

-----------------?-----------------

Rafael---Ferdinand---Vidic------Evra

Valencia--Carrick---Anderson------?

---------Rooney----Berbatov-------

I agree with Ed, top teams will tear you apart if that is your centre midfield.

Gerrard, Mascherano and Alonso at Liverpool and Lampard, Essien, Mikel or Ballack at Chelsea. In the top 4, only Arsenal will have a worse centre midfield than United next season. imo.

The same midfield that has won 3 league titles on the trot .



You really are clueless take off your blue tinted glasses please.

playing Anderson as a CM is still one of the biggest waste of time , talent since we tried to play Baptista as a DM ...

u just need to see Anderson of Porto and compare him to the crap in United

Why what would you say his best position is ?


To be totally honest I havent been won over by Anderson he needs to improve a great deal .

He's got the talent, but his shooting lets him down.

Now thats a statement I agree with .

 

[Metaphysical]

playing Anderson as a CM is still one of the biggest waste of time , talent since we tried to play Baptista as a DM ...

u just need to see Anderson of Porto and compare him to the crap in United

the leg-break changed his game from more ronaldinho to more davids.

plus you haveta factor in settling into a new country n' all that.

what I'll say for the kid is that he's owned gerrard, alonso, cesc and flamini in his time with united. he was scaring the shit out of chelsea that one time too but fergie took him off.

if he can get a run of games, either in CM or LW, he will find a rhythm and his performances will improve. the boy's talent is undoubted.

also blueduck not rating hargreaves has to be one of the funniest things ever. hargreaves is stone-cold world-class when he's fit. most complete CM in the world. if he does indeed return from tendonitis (which isn't a certainty) united will be fucking laughing.

however if he doesn't, you could argue they need a replacement coz apart from him united's central midfield is full of players who could be awesome if fergie would just give them runs in the side/responsibility. carrick is amazing at times, but fergie needs to keep him as a CM with license to get forward. not use him as a DM or partner him with scholes which massively inhibits him. anderson is much the same. the two of them would be a good partnership actually. fletcher is an able hargreaves substitute but beyond those three it's not really all that great if hargreaves doesn't return.

gibson could be brilliant but needs to play regularly, scholes is on the way out, giggs can play a few games but nothing more, who else?

a left-winger and another CM are needed (well, that CM is dependant on hargreaves really).

 

[Beast]

Why what would you say his best position is ?


To be totally honest I havent been won over by Anderson he needs to improve a great deal .

.

Anderson natural position an AM/Winger.. he was touted as the next Dinho ..

see any Anderson Porto highlights and see the big big difference.. he is totally wasted in Man U IMHO

[YOUTUBE]0QoRV7JuQOc[/YOUTUBE]

^^^^ that's the Anderson i know.. not the crap SAF made him

the leg-break changed his game from more ronaldinho to more davids.

plus you haveta factor in settling into a new country n' all that.

what I'll say for the kid is that he's owned gerrard, alonso, cesc and flamini in his time with united. he was scaring the shit out of chelsea that one time too but fergie took him off.

if he can get a run of games, either in CM or LW, he will find a rhythm and his performances will improve. the boy's talent is undoubted.

also blueduck not rating hargreaves has to be one of the funniest things ever. hargreaves is stone-cold world-class when he's fit. most complete CM in the world. if he does indeed return from tendonitis (which isn't a certainty) united will be fucking laughing.

however if he doesn't, you could argue they need a replacement coz apart from him united's central midfield is full of players who could be awesome if fergie would just give them runs in the side/responsibility. carrick is amazing at times, but fergie needs to keep him as a CM with license to get forward. not use him as a DM or partner him with scholes which massively inhibits him. anderson is much the same. the two of them would be a good partnership actually. fletcher is an able hargreaves substitute but beyond those three it's not really all that great if hargreaves doesn't return.

gibson could be brilliant but needs to play regularly, scholes is on the way out, giggs can play a few games but nothing more, who else?

a left-winger and another CM are needed (well, that CM is dependant on hargreaves really).

No Meta.. it's the way SAF play him... it's SAF mistake not the injury

 

[Metaphysical]

No Meta.. it's the way SAF play him... it's SAF mistake not the injury

he said himself in an interview that the leg-break changed his style.

anyway, it was interesting that when given the choice fergie played him as the AM of a midfield trio. could it be that fergie won't sign a LW, will sign a CM, and will instead use anderson further forward? it could be an option. we'll see I guess.

 

[AnfieldEd]

Because Anderson owned gerrard one game you base your opinion on that? central midfield is not the area for Anderson.

Red devil please read what I said please. I said IF you go to traditional 442 then your central midfield has problems. But when you won the titles the past 3 years you have 3 in the middle giving you more power and strength.

When fit Hargreaves is top quality no questions. Though I had to laugh, sorry meta, when he called Hargreaves the most complete central midfielder in the world. When he isn't even the most complete central midfielder in england. But he is top quality without doubt.

 

[Metaphysical]

Because Anderson owned gerrard one game you base your opinion on that? central midfield is not the area for Anderson.

he's done it more than once, but okay.

When fit Hargreaves is top quality no questions. Though I had to laugh, sorry meta, when he called Hargreaves the most complete central midfielder in the world. When he isn't even the most complete central midfielder in england. But he is top quality without doubt.

who's more complete than him? go on, name someone.

essien is the only one who comes close and his problem is he only has one gear of play whereas hargreaves has several.

 

[AnfieldEd]

Essien is MUCH better than Hargreaves. Others include De Rossi, Gerrard, lucho, Gattuso, Alonso, Xavi (when he plays there), Mascherano, Yaya Toure. Hargreaves is top class though and I hope people don't think I say otherwise.

 

[Metaphysical]

Essien is MUCH better than Hargreaves. Others include De Rossi, Gerrard, lucho, Gattuso, Alonso, Xavi (when he plays there), Mascherano, Yaya Toure. Hargreaves is top class though and I hope people don't think I say otherwise.

essien? again, he doesn't have the nous that hargo does. he's very much an up-and-at-'em player and that's all he can do. hargreaves can be much more subtle.

de rossi bottles big occasions. he doesn't stamp his authority on games enough. I'll agree he SHOULD be better than hargreaves, but yeah, he's not.

gerrard is like essien, but even moreso. he doesn't have the brain to play in central midfield and distribute the ball sensibly etc. he's all go all the time.

xavi, lucho and alonso doesn't have the energy, pace or defensive ability that hargreaves does. remember I'm talking about being a complete player, not a better player.

mascherano does but he's not good enough in attack. he could be, though, and shows it in flashes.

gattuso is HORRENDOUS in attack. in terms of pure defensive ability though, he's right up there with the all-time greats IMO, but he's not functional enough in terms of offence.

yaya's actually quite close but doesn't quite have the composure and sharpness that hargreaves does. his first-touch can be quite heavy at times and he often needs a lot of time on the ball.

mascherano, essien and yaya come closest but none of them combine everything like hargreaves does. he's such an impressively complete player.