Champions League 2017/18

[BarcaOG]

i think that as barca fans we have to stop daydreaming about Pep's team and take a hard look at the fact that real are on the cusp of 4 CLs in 5 years. they have been far more efficient in the CL and we need to be very realistic about the fact that, for example, messi simply needs to do better in the CL. i see a lot of you posting about how even though real keep on winning the CL noone is talking about them like they talked about pep's barca. newsflash: pundits and neutrals hardly care about that, they continue to praise real and CR, and we are just too biased to admit it. In fact considering how dominant this real has been pep underachieved with us (and after us), and real frankly look unbeatable in a two-legged tie. there are posts in other threads about how there are more competitions in world football than the CL but holy shit, nobody cares about the fucking Copa and it means little ultimately if suarez and messi were great in the copa if they could do shit all against Roma in the CL. this is tough but we need to aspire to better things and expect more from our top players or else we risk a small-club, small-titles mentality.

in 2011 when real beat us in the copa Xavi rightly said that Barca was more interested in more important trophies. thats the attitude we need, not this yearly copa nonsense.

 

[Ursegor]

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Facts.

Idiotic posts by random Twitter dumbwits trying to save Messi's reputation by shitting on the rest of the team.

Pique, Umtiti, Alba, Busquets, Iniesta, Rakitic, Suarez would start EASILY in that Bayern team.

I have never seen Alba shitting his pants like that for Real's second goal and I'd trust even Gomes to misplace fewer passes than Thiago did today.

And Suarez shits on Lewandowski from a great height. Scores against Madrid every single time.

 

[serghei]

What is amusing is the fact that we have spent so much money compared to Real Madrid. Everyone thought of Real Madrid as a club that overspend and underachieves yet we have managed to become that type of club.

They'll blow up the market once they have a really bad season.

 

[kattanib]

There is no way league is harder to win. Real just can't be arsed, they already have 33 titles.

League consists of 18 teams with 50 times lower budget than Barca and Real. One of the two slips up, the other automatically wins. Plus Atletico punching above their weight.

Of course it is. It requires consistency while CL has a much more gambling aspect to it. In the CL you don't know who you will face, nor at what condition will they will be at. In La Liga you play everyone, and you do so home and away

To me this follows the Law of Big Numbers. The more you play, the more you'll get closer to statistical fact of a 50% chance head vs. 50% chance tail. Meaning, the more you play, the less it is about luck and the more it is about who is better. There are 38 games in la liga

 

[serghei]

i think that as barca fans we have to stop daydreaming about Pep's team and take a hard look at the fact that real are on the cusp of 4 CLs in 5 years. they have been far more efficient in the CL and we need to be very realistic about the fact that, for example, messi simply needs to do better in the CL. i see a lot of you posting about how even though real keep on winning the CL noone is talking about them like they talked about pep's barca. newsflash: pundits and neutrals hardly care about that, they continue to praise real and CR, and we are just too biased to admit it. In fact considering how dominant this real has been pep underachieved with us (and after us), and real frankly look unbeatable in a two-legged tie. there are posts in other threads about how there are more competitions in world football than the CL but holy shit, nobody cares about the fucking Copa and it means little ultimately if suarez and messi were great in the copa if they could do shit all against Roma in the CL. this is tough but we need to aspire to better things and expect more from our top players or else we risk a small-club, small-titles mentality.

in 2011 when real beat us in the copa Xavi rightly said that Barca was more interested in more important trophies. thats the attitude we need, not this yearly copa nonsense.

True, but CL is not everything. We have won 3 domestic doubles in the last 4 years, and one CL. Madrid have 1 La Liga and 2 Cls as of now.

 

[Flavius]

What is amusing is the fact that we have spent so much money compared to Real Madrid. Everyone thought of Real Madrid as a club that overspend and underachieves yet we have managed to become that type of club.

And wait, we.ll spend at least 100 in summer...we need reinforcements....

 

[Hamzah]

They'll blow up the market once they have a really bad season.

Florentino got his act together. He toned down the galactico policy and started making smart decisions. Our board on the other hand has been a complete disaster.

 

[hellsangel1]

The League and cup double is a greater achievement in a sporting sense as its harder to do but the Champions League has more prestige.

Winning the league and cup double would be a greater sporting achievement if your main rival actually gave an arse about winning either of them this season (they didn’t care about Copa last year either ). Who exactly were we competing against to win those two trophies? A below par (compared to recent seasons) Atlético. As Pique said at the start of the season, for the first time in a long time Real are superior to us. They just have a better balanced squad and a better starting XI as well.

 

[Flavius]

True, but CL is not everything. We have won 3 domestic doubles in the last 4 years, and one CL.

Who remembers this beside Barca\la liga fans?

 

[Barcilliant]

And wait, we.ll spend at least 100 in summer...we need reinforcements....

Yeah 100 million for Griezmann who we don't need.

 

[serghei]

Who remembers this beside Barca\la liga fans?

Everyone. La Liga is probably the no1 league in Europe. Everybody who's interested in football watches Premier League and La Liga. Don't tell me being a football fan is waiting weeks to watch CL games and nothing matters in between.

Let's not go overboard.

 

[soul24rage]

It's clear that our squad should not prioritize all three competitions as we don't have the depth to compete for all three. I hope the team know which competitions to prioritize first and act accordingly to that.

 

[Barcilliant]

Who remembers this beside Barca\la liga fans?

Truth. The Champions League is the most important trophy in world club football bar none.

 

[kattanib]

It's clear that our squad should not prioritize all three competitions as we don't have the depth to compete for all three. I hope the team know which competitions to prioritize first and act accordingly to that.

La Liga is less risker if you want to focus on one competition as long as you believe that you have the best starting 11 squad

 

[Ursegor]

True, but CL is not everything. We have won 3 domestic doubles in the last 4 years, and one CL. Madrid have 1 La Liga and 2 Cls as of now.

Beating Leganes, Granada, Malaga, Deportivo, Betis consistently is a lot easier than going away to Juventus, PSG, Bayern, Atletico and beating them infront of their fans round after round.

Real just can't be arsed. They are like Zidane in his playing days. Not consistent against minnows but show up at the biggest stages.

Liverpool are hopeless. Madrid will sit deep and Milner, Henderson, Chamberlain will not get the ball forward. This is not gung-ho Pep tactics or Roma. They can barely break down lower table Premier League sides which sit back ffs.