Champions League 2017/18

[Andrew M]

we need to bring in a world class proven manager if we want to get anywhere in the CL. pointless discussion though as EV is here to stay

You mean like when we appointed Pep or Real appointed Zizou? Both no experience at top level management

 

[Andrew M]

(Pretending that Salah's injury was an accident, and nothing to do with Ramos' maliciousness,) the final was an epitomy of what we saw through the whole season, and in general of how this version of RM have managed to pave their way to glory:

- Injuries spreading on the opponent's best players like the runes carved into gravestones by the forbidden arts' foretold.
- Goals are being handed to them like in a youth academy's elementary training sessions.
- Wonder-goals that materialize one in a 1000 times, all concurring together when they need them.
- Getting all key moments of luck in a game, that could normally go either way, in their favor.
- When the referees are needed, they will happily give a helping hand


With NOT EVEN the slightest sense of playing better than a team with 10 times worse squad!!

Think whatever you want. This is NOT a great side!! It will not even near the greatest sides of history of this game. It maybe the luckiest side of all times.
This RM side is the living proof that football is the sport in which success does not reflect quality!!

Do yourself a favour and give it a rest, man. Makes for pretty pathetic reading

 

[bodi16]

You mean like when we appointed Pep or Real appointed Zizou? Both no experience at top level management

Not 100% comparable imo, as both Pep and Zidane had great football careers. Pep was known to be tactically astute. On the other hand, Zidane might not be on the same level tactically, but he's a great motivator and knows how he needs to behave with top class players because he was one formerly.

 

[Andrew M]

Not 100% comparable imo, as both Pep and Zidane had great football careers. Pep was known to be tactically astute. On the other hand, Zidane might not be on the same level tactically, but he's a great motivator and knows how he needs to behave with top class players because he was one formerly.

Having a great footballing career means nothing. Just ask Arrigo Sacchi. The point is that you don't need to be a coach of high status to be successful. It's silly and reactive to say we must have a super established, world class manager to win the CL.

Was Rijkaard?

No.

Was Pep?

No.

Was Lucho?

No.

 

[bodi16]

Having a great footballing career means nothing. Just ask Arrigo Sacchi. The point is that you don't need to be a coach of high status to be successful. It's silly and reactive to say we must have a super established, world class manager to win the CL.

We're needing a coach that can actually change his gameplan when things aren't going in his favour. Lucho wasn't this type of coach either, but Pep was during his time here, Zidane is at Madrid. This season EV just showed that he isn't that type of coach, you can't win the CL when you are reacting too late in the game, like it happened at Olimpico. We'll see how things will work out for him next season, hopefully we'll sign at least one WC midfielder, so he'll have no excuses for a potential failure.

 

[Andrew M]

We're needing a coach that can actually change his gameplan when things aren't going in his favour. Lucho wasn't this type of coach either, but Pep was during his time here, Zidane is at Madrid. This season EV just showed that he isn't that type of coach, you can't win the CL when you are reacting too late in the game, like it happened at Olimpico. We'll see how things will work out for him next season, hopefully we'll sign at least one WC midfielder, so he'll have no excuses for a potential failure.

Since when has Pep been known to change his gameplan? Pep is as stubborn as it gets.

 

[bodi16]

Since when has Pep been known to change his gameplan? Pep is as stubborn as it gets.

I can remember during his time here that 1-3 win at Bernabeu back in 2011. Benzema scores after 30 seconds in the game, then we were playing with three at the back in a 3-4-3 with Alves as RM. Too bad he couldn't find the solution against world class buses

 

[Obiaseti]

Sort of ok match I guess. Poor Salah wasn't prepared for Ramos and his usual dirty play. Feel sorry for him. Bale first goal was fantastic though and the highlight of the final. Also got the feeling that Karius lost what little composure he had after his first mistake. He should have been replaced then and there. Liverpool needs squad depth and a proper keeper and they are good to go even for the league. Anyway, Congrats to Real Madrid! Well played.

 

[sickstar]

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Congratulations Real, 4 CL in 5 years with one of the best Barca ever, we must reconsider the priorities

Puyol said it too. First priority, UCL, Second la liga, and CDR, play reserves or even young team, if allowed.

If any, Real does have hunger, and that was clearly displayed. Liverpool was really careful after 1-2. Seems that they were still shocked by Bale's rocket goal. This made me remember when we're 0-2 down against Roma. Too afraid of going forward would cause us another goal. After 0-3 it's the real Barca but too late.

Anyway, Zidane made a really good substitution with Bale, punishing unready Liverpool.

 

[henias]

(Pretending that Salah's injury was an accident, and nothing to do with Ramos' maliciousness,) the final was an epitomy of what we saw through the whole season, and in general of how this version of RM have managed to pave their way to glory:

- Injuries spreading on the opponent's best players like the runes carved into gravestones by the forbidden arts' foretold.
- Goals are being handed to them like in a youth academy's elementary training sessions.
- Wonder-goals that materialize one in a 1000 times, all concurring together when they need them.
- Getting all key moments of luck in a game, that could normally go either way, in their favor.
- When the referees are needed, they will happily give a helping hand


With NOT EVEN the slightest sense of playing better than a team with 10 times worse squad!!

Think whatever you want. This is NOT a great side!! It will not even near the greatest sides of history of this game. It maybe the luckiest side of all times.
This RM side is the living proof that football is the sport in which success does not reflect quality!!

I'm a Barca fan but this post is pathetic. Madrid dominated the game.

 

[Givenchy]

You mean like when we appointed Pep or Real appointed Zizou? Both no experience at top level management

Sure we can say it worked with Pep and Zidane but they are the exception imo. EV is a midtable manager, making amatuer mistakes, misusing our players and turning us into a Mourinho style shithouse football team except unlike Mou, he doesn't even have a CV to justify turning us into this abomination.

we need to stop this wild card ex-barca dna holier than thou bs and give the reins to a world class manager with pedigree in the CL. cules want to see us stop Madrid winning 4 in a row.. yeah good luck even getting to the final under Ernesto. don't worry though we'll win the Copa

 

[henias]

Pointless to discuss it, but conservative approach often works well vs. Liverpool. ManUtd, Chelsea recently and so on...

Valverde so called "conservative approach" is pass back and forth with little penetration and counter attacks that are almost non-existent. "Conservative approach" here is a very vague and broad subject, if you are talking specifically about Valverde's approach, you would have to hope for a miracle that he can even beat a team like Roma and hopefully not piss his pants when he's a goal down.

Having a midtable mentality is not going to win you anything as well.

 

[Raketa10]

Well guys we have to ba fair and admit that Rea’sl CL dominance is 100% our fault. We went on a trip to Rome an in that moment we handed them another CL trophy. CL should be our top priority for the next few seasons.

 

[Birdy]

I'm a Barca fan but this post is pathetic. Madrid dominated the game.

LMAO on how Barca fans have been gradually talked into RM's rhetoric, and seeing things through their distorting lenses.

Scoring bicycle kicks that get in one in a 1000 times is neither a game-plan nor any reflection of 'dominance'
This is including Karius' mistakes as RM 'chances':

Yeah, definetely better, in one of the worst Liverpool CL performances this season, and without Salah after min 30

 

[utility73]

Typical poor Madrid match with their opponents handing them the victory.

Btw, the mistake on the 3:1 could be forgiven. It was a grave mistake but that shit happens. But the mistake on the 1:0 was just sheer stupidity from Kariusz, that one was absolutely inexcusable.