Champions League 2024-25

[JamDav1982]

Yeah, can't win them all. Intimidating home factor remains.

Dont agree it did and you are choosing to miss out last few years anyway when failed to beat Inter, Man Utd, Bayern, Frankfurt etc.

Dont even think beat Galatasary or Napoli at home that first Xavi season in Europa either.

Under Koeman also.. were better away to likes of Juventus and PSG than were at home.. albeit lack of fans at times.

 

[serghei]

Well, I told you that it matters only if you have a top team. We're looking likely to become one again under Flick. Having our home stadium would've made a big difference.

 

[JamDav1982]

Well, I told you that it matters only if you have a top team.

No cant use that excuse when failing to beat teams have better players than.

As was case with likes of Man Utd, Inter, Frnkfurt, Galatasary, Napoli etc.

Or with Koeman when can go away to PSG and Juventus and perform better than at home.

 

[serghei]

No cant use that excuse when failing to beat teams have better players than.

As was case with likes of Man Utd, Inter, Frnkfurt, Galatasary, Napoli etc.

Or with Koeman when can go away to PSG and Juventus and perform better than at hom.

Not my argument really. This Barca is better than any other version since 2019, by a lot compared to some we had previously when we had those losses.

 

[JamDav1982]

Not my argument really. This Barca is better than any other version since 2019, by a lot compared to some we had previously when we had those losses.

In large part due to the coach.

Cant ignore that.

Do not believe for a second with Flick and the players Barca had in last few years Barca are so as abject in Europe and fail to beat a list of teams like that.

 

[serghei]

You put this Dortmund team we're gonna face in 3 weeks time on a fully packed Camp Nou at 100k almost, and they feel the pressure. They lose by 3-4 goals margin easily.

 

[serghei]

In large part due to the coach.

Cant ignore that.

Do not believe for a second with Flick and the players Barca had in last few years Barca are so as abject in Europe and fail to beat a list of teams like that.

Of course a big role goes to the coach, because he helped build a side that the fans have confidence in. A big intimidating stadium helps over that, it doesn't compensate for lack of quality, experience, or anything of the sort.

 

[JamDav1982]

You put this Dortmund team we're gonna face in 3 weeks time on a fully packed Camp Nou at 100k almost, and they feel the pressure. They lose by 3-4 goals margin easily.

Under this Flick Barca possibly.

Under Xavis Barca when cant beat Napoli, Man Utd, Galatasary, Inter, Bayern, Frankfurt etc.

Cant see it.

 

[JamDav1982]

Of course a big role goes to the coach, because he helped build a side that the fans have confidence in.

The attacking style and the confidence he gives players would most likely feed from stands and be a positive but the team needs to provide that more than the fans for it to matter as last fee years have shown.

 

[serghei]

Under this Flick Barca possibly.

Under Xavis Barca when cant beat Napoli, Man Utd, Galatasary, Inter, Bayern, Frankfurt etc.

Cant see it.

Xavi is gone mate. I think about present and future.

It's just a shame to not have our stadium because the team is easy to support and crowd would've been up for it in this season. No doubt for me.

 

[JamDav1982]

Xavi is gone mate. I think about present and future.

When the comparison is to the past then the past matters and Koeman was mentioned and results under other coaches.

Teams loved visiting Nou Camp.. Inferior teams too often.

 

[serghei]

When the comparison is to the past then the past matters and Koeman was mentioned and results under other coaches.

Teams loved visiting Nou Camp.. Inferior teams too often.

Yes, they did. Would've liked to see how they do vs this version of Barca, with Yamal, Raphinha, Pedri etc. in this form and 100k crowd behind them.

 

[JamDav1982]

Yes, they did. Would've liked to see how they do vs this version of Barca, with Yamal, Raphinha, Pedri etc. in this form and 100k crowd behind them.

I agree and that is the point it is about playing in a way and giving players a belief to play that way that has to be the basis of feeding the fans add to that fear factor.

Flicks team more likely to have that than Barca have for a while.

 

[RedxMAK]

7 years and 7-8 months. That Bayern defeat came in April or May 2013.

Yeah, the defeat was in May 2013. That makes the record 7 years, 7 months and 1 week.

 

[RedxMAK]

Under this Flick Barca possibly.

Under Xavis Barca when cant beat Napoli, Man Utd, Galatasary, Inter, Bayern, Frankfurt etc.

Cant see it.

Tbf you have to admit that it’s not like the atmosphere was extremely strong in any of those ties, notably in the Europa ones where Barcelona didn’t even want to compete in EL. Only good atmosphere was in the United games and some parts of the Inter game. Bayern I’m not sure since I went to sleep due to seeing Inter obliterate Plzen.