Champions League 23/24

Who will win CL this season?

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Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
NKMaribor said:
Actually it is quite tangible. Top quality squad adapted for modern football, plus killer mentality. Example being while you were down, you went even lower. City, absolutely folded under pressure for years. It is absolutelly crucial trait to have, and absolute display of quality. Hence the obscene dominance of club football.

As for treble. Are you saying that Mou’s Inter was deserved winner of CL, given they have won treble In 2010?

Lets make a deal. You keep your trebles, while i keep 3 consecutive CLs. Okay?
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Not folding under pressure is important, I give you that
But it's not sufficient to qualify
Your opponent missing sitters has nothing to do with your ability to not fold
As doesn't have the ball hitting two heads in a split second like a billiard ball and getting in to the net

It's merely the obscene amount of luck you had in all those games,
which the Madritista narrative carefully hided behind 'mentality' arguments to not to admit the plain truth

You never deserved the CLs you got
 
Blanco

Blanco

Active member
Birdy said:
No mate, these games can be decided by the toss of a coin, minimal contingent factors in one or two plays that are not reflective of a level of the teams.
Saarbrucken eliminated Bayern in DFB pokal. According to your logic they have it more than Bayern in high pressure games. Plenty of examples from the history of football. No need to cite

League are won against small and big teams together. City under Pep who were extremely unlucky 2 or 3 times in CL knockouts, did not win only vs small teams, but also easily cruised over the big ones as well these seasons.
You judge over the course of the whole season, and you judge by the level of football played

But I understand why a Madritista like you would say this: it's the stupid narrative that you push in order to argue that you were the best team in Europe in seasons where you were absolutely worse than at least 5 other teams and yet won CL.
The sad thing is that this line is being adopted more and more by Barca fans
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I am not talking about every knockout tournament to give me an example with Saarbrucken. I am talking about tournaments where top teams want to show their best level, tournaments like CL, WC and Euros. When you have 180/90 minutes to show you are better than your direct opponent - you show your real quality, not when you play Mallorca and you could lose and that means nothing because you have 30 matches more to fix your situation. Teams are preparing themselves for months for these matches (Xavi was watching Napoli game even when his team was playing their match in the league). Footballer like Alba was crying in semifinals in CL and in the league he was playing like he is playing in the park with his kids. Exactly that is why these matches are creating the legends of the game and the reason for the titles in these tournaments to be the most prestigious.
 
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Porque

Senior Member
In this morning's draw, Barça is playing for two titles. The current Champions League , of which the final is four games away, and the first Club World Cup next season. To be in it, with what it means of prestige and a lot of money (50 million euros), Barça needs to reach the semifinals and, ideally, for Atlético de Madrid to lose both quarterfinal matches. The scenario is very difficult but, in order not to depend on four games, but on just two, the best thing for Barça would be to play it one card in a direct confrontation against Atlético de Madrid . Thus, it would only depend on him to achieve his goal.
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Also. Biggest losers in how things are calculated are Liverpool. But unlike us they can afford to miss out.

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Horatio

Horatio

You're welcome
Always strikes me as funny how in football before 16th final a team has no shot at winning the tournament and once passed the first round of the finals it’s anything goes. First round of the finals is like some magic cutoff point of despair into HOPE even though the likelihood of facing stronger teams from here on is bigger and bigger. Makes very little sense actually.
 
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