Look, if we are such evil hateful "anti-Valverde" fans, how would it ever be a "win" situation for us? You basically just contradicted yourself.
More like it's an excuse for you to "win" while looking like a saint alongside naysayers just in case EV fails.
For us, the criticism for Valverde has never been a win or lose, it's just EV fans being obsessed with bringing up results. Intertwining us with your simplistic flawed argument is kinda tiresome while trying make people out like they want their team to lose. Like I said, it all depends on the tactics and lineup that night and how well the coach prepares the team against the opposition.
Who said anything about evil?
No, its just been obvious for a while, that the anti-valverde fan fraction, for some time have been pretty irrational in rating him, and claims like "its not about winning or losing but tactics applied and lineup" is just underlining my point. The best indicator and prove for if the manager does good decion-making in regard to tactics, rotation, man-management, are, suprise suprise: results. Thats why people call you out on you coach-managers opinion - somehow this team cant stop winning since day 1 despite consensus was this team wont win titles in season 1 no matter who the manager was, and since EV has taken a more pragmatic tactical approach (due to our aging core) no matter how good results he produces, its not enough. You just want him out. I find it hillarious that results are this good, but somehow a guy on the internet knows better even tho the results are a lot better than what you can expect or what even was expected by almost every single user on this board summer 2017. I get why one would be opposed to the style, not that I agree to compromize results by playing more joyful and pretty, but that would make somewhat sense, but when you start arguing that Valverdes decision not produce the best results - because that what you are indicating - then it just pretty ironic when the results never have been better under any manager, not even the idol Pep Guardiola who btw just exited the tournement because of his die-hard believes.
I have read too many posts like "dont care if Valverde wins treble, he needs to go" - its just doesnt make sense.
No, I dont say anyghing about the fraction wanting us to lose. I said its a win-win sitation, so dont start making up.