Champions League

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Barca going forward would compete and give trouble to juts about any team with these players.

Would rather this lot going forward than last seasons or likes of Suarez who did fuck all for years.

Defensively would be the issue.
 

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Blaugrana al vent
I agree with you on that.. Barca and Real are not as far away as some think.

'The next Milan' etc and doomsday when Messi goes was always delusion.

Barca and Real can come back very quickly.

My point has always been that the top teams in EPL are currently better across the board..but from mid table down La Liga is worse than ever seen it and likes of EPL due to the money has far more depth and players of a high quality.

All clubs were handicapped by 1,5 years of no stadium tickets revenue, which makes it hard to spend money on transfers. This hurts disproportionately the midtable-relegation level teams. EPL clubs were dealt minimal damage because of their TV deal. We should see more talents arrive to the leagues as clubs bounce back within 1-2 years.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
What's the observation to be made, oh great football guru?

LL is punching above their weight, even wihtout all that money that is poured into EPL teams.

No La Liga is not punching above its weight in comparison to EPL.

The two teams with most money have been worse.

There has been two all EPL CL finals in last three seasons.

That competition is the one that matters more by far.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
All clubs were handicapped by 1,5 years of no stadium tickets revenue, which makes it hard to spend money for transfers. This hurts disporportionately the midtable-relegation level teams. EPL clubs were dealt minimal damage because of their TV deal. We should see more talents arrive to the leagues as clubs bounce back within 1-2 years.

The difference in teams was before covid and there was two all EPL European Finals prior to it.

The issue has been there for years and not much changed. While those clubs got the CVC deal anyway so only really one season impacted where quality for those teams more or less stayed the same.

Even then it doesnt matter the reasons when the comment is on quality. It was severly lacking before covid and does now.
 

Kul_z

Senior Member
What's the observation to be made, oh great football guru?

LL is punching above their weight, even wihtout all that money that is poured into EPL teams.

I cant comprehend how someone with the sane mind cant see that. La liga with barca and madrid in their prime, with messi and cr7 in their prime absolutely dominated the football world, both in cl and el, and STILL, even then had 20-40% less money power then epl. Insane.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I cant comprehend how someone with the sane mind cant see that. La liga with barca and madrid in their prime, with messi and cr7 in their prime absolutely dominated the football world, both in cl and el, and STILL, even then had 20-40% less money power then epl. Insane.

Yes La Liga was best in world then.... at least can call it that due to the top teams.

Irrelevant and no one arguing against it.

The point you are wrong on is assuming Barca and Real can do that any time spend money which is clearly false.

Barca and Real did not have 20-40% less spending power. They were the two most powerful clubs in world then. More so than now.
 

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
I cant comprehend how someone with the sane mind cant see that. La liga with barca and madrid in their prime, with messi and cr7 in their prime absolutely dominated the football world, both in cl and el, and STILL, even then had 20-40% less money power then epl. Insane.

La liga has not stopped dominating EL. We are still doing it and Barca will continue the tradition by winning it this year whle EPL teams keep embarrassing themselves in there.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
La liga has not stopped dominating EL. We are still doing it and Barca will continue the tradition by winning it this year whle EPL teams keep embarrassing themselves in there.

Aye EPL better teams didnt get knocked out of CL to fight for the prestigious EL.

The fact that focus on Europa League as sign of league quality and ignore CL says it all.
 

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
Aye EPL better teams didnt get knocked out of CL to fight for the prestigious EL.

The fact that focus on Europa League as sign of league quality and ignore CL says it all.

What have wolves west ham leicster ever done in Europa league.

Sevilla and Villareal are similiar tiers and they keep winning. Sevilla over performed this season but they will go back down to 4th or 5th place this season very soon.

Mid table strength shows la liga is a much stronger league. Considering they regularly whoop United and arsenals ass in europa.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Sevilla who can do nothing in the CL and put out this year by an Austrian and a French team in the groups can be called kings of Europe and mark of class if win Europa...

Brilliant.

Comparing Sevilla to Leicester... one is lower half of EPL and didnt even play strongest sides in Europe.

Brilliant.

Last year United scud two La Liga teams in Europa then lose on pens in final. Can happen.

This season beat Villareal home and away and put out by Ateltico in a tie that looked like two poor sides. Can happen.
 
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iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
Yeah cause they arent a big team. La liga has a big 3. 4th to 10th place teams are all strong as each other which shows how strong la liga is

No matter who they lose to you best believe they will whoop English teams ass. Anytime, cause superior football is played in spain.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Yeah cause they arent a big team. La liga has a big 3. 4th to 10th place teams are all strong as each other which shows how strong la liga is

No matter who they lose to you best believe they will whoop English teams ass. Anytime, cause superior football is played in spain.

Haha no they are not and no it isnt.

Delusion.
 

Kul_z

Senior Member
Yes La Liga was best in world then.... at least can call it that due to the top teams.

Irrelevant and no one arguing against it.

The point you are wrong on is assuming Barca and Real can do that any time spend money which is clearly false.

Barca and Real did not have 20-40% less spending power. They were the two most powerful clubs in world then. More so than now.

Again no. If real and barca were so way ahead of others in la liga, then others would see no glory at all. If lower table clubs were so bad then the middle table clubs wouldnt do much harm to the top six. If top six dont have competition and alert week in week out how the hell can they compete against the tactics all over europe of 'smaller' clubs? Domino effect. Real and barca were unplayable because the astonishing determination of messi and cr7, it wasnt about winning it was about a rivalry who can score more. Imagine playing against prime messi and next week you play againsf some epl schmucks that cant control ball even if his life depends on that. Whole league was in the league on its own
 

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