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messi2140

6racies Xavi
Does it get any cringier? When angry virgin teenagers start throwing around "cuck" on the Internet. Bigger embarrassment for me actually exchanging words with people like you on the Internet than Anfield. Thank God no one in real life sees this. :lol:

Surprised that you can feel embarrassed when you have been stanning Valverde without any shame.


Talks about intellect yet comes with 5 IQ hot takes like Barca is only as good as Spurs hence Valverde can't be blamed :lol: :lol:
 
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The Observer

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Did EV molest you as a child?

You can't know this as you are about 16 years old but Barca wasn't founded in 2008 or 2006. The way is only down from here. Once Messi and Suarez are done not even Pep-Klopp dual coaching will get this club back to when you started watching. Sorry to break this to you.

Also I never claimed Barca = Spurs. I said Barca last season without Messi was Spurs level. Be precise and not dishonest.
 

messi2140

6racies Xavi
Nah he didn't molest me, but Im sure you would have enjoyed it.

Guess the likes the of Ajax have 11 Messi's on the pitch and are getting coached by Pep because that's the only way to play good football according to you.

Barca without Messi still had a better team than Spurs.
 

The Observer

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The same guy who thinks Pique, Busquets, Rakitic, Alba, Suarez are all finished, old, "club de amigos" and garbage now, tries to argue that Barca are still better than Spurs without Messi. I suppose legendary world beaters like Lenglet, Semedo, Démbéle and Arthur make the huge difference then.

Ajax have a young team which hasn't won anything. They can run their lungs out. Barca can not. Reaching the end of a long successful era. Not rocket science (rocket science is easy by the way, no idea who invented this terminology).

Anything else?
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Did EV molest you as a child?

You can't know this as you are about 16 years old but Barca wasn't founded in 2008 or 2006. The way is only down from here. Once Messi and Suarez are done not even Pep-Klopp dual coaching will get this club back to when you started watching. Sorry to break this to you.

Also I never claimed Barca = Spurs. I said Barca last season without Messi was Spurs level. Be precise and not dishonest.

Don't you have to attend to more important matters, "physicist"? Like unifying relativity and quantum mechanics.

Tell me, how are we doing on this end?

:suarez:
 

The Observer

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Don't you have to attend to more important matters, "physicist"? Like unifying relativity and quantum mechanics.

Tell me, how are we doing on this end?

:suarez:

I do, that's why I only have 700 posts in 6 years.

Any specific question? I'll gladly answer. Quantum mechanics is actually my field.
 

JohnN

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[MENTION=16313]The Observer[/MENTION]

I agree that our core veteran players are the reason we are still an elite team, at least on paper nowadays. Once they are gone our level will drop.

Two things are really weird though:
1. You have a thing about Arthur. Claiming he was part of the games against Slavia and Levante, when he actually wasn't, is pretty telling. He has actually missed all the games when we were dominated in midfield.

2. Our core players getting older is one of the reasons why this team can't perform like in the past. There is a second reason, which is pretty important and you avoid it like the plague. Almost everyone have recognised that EV is not suited for Barcelona. No one really hates the guy, but he has proven in crucial moments that he does really bad mistakes. And he repeats them too. I will not go into the tactical aspects as I don't know what happens in training. The bottom line is, why is it so hard to acknowledge that EV is just not good enough?
 

messi2140

6racies Xavi
The same guy who thinks Pique, Busquets, Rakitic, Alba, Suarez are all finished, old, "club de amigos" and garbage now, tries to argue that Barca are still better than Spurs without Messi. I suppose legendary world beaters like Lenglet, Semedo, Démbéle and Arthur make the huge difference then.

Ajax have a young team which hasn't won anything. They can run their lungs out. Barca can not. Reaching the end of a long successful era. Not rocket science (rocket science is easy by the way, no idea who invented this terminology).

Anything else?

Suarez, Raki , Busquets are finished, the others on that list aren't. Regarding the the new players that got bought, all I can say is that your daddy Valverde has this talent of making every player who gets bought worse.

Barca with the right adjustment, phasing out a few senior players and a competent manager can play more dynamic football than the static garbage they have been showing. But Im arguing against someone who thinks Valverde outclassed Klopp. :shrug:

If Ajax play much better football because of the hungry and young players and not mainly because Ten Hag is 10 times the manager Valverde ever will be , why doesnt Valverde just field all the new players that got bought and according to you would magically play more dynamic football ? Unless you want to tell me that the likes of Martinez , Veltman , Mazraoui ,etc are better than Lenglet , Semedo etc.
 
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The Observer

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[MENTION=16313]The Observer[/MENTION]

I agree that our core veteran players are the reason we are still an elite team, at least on paper nowadays. Once they are gone our level will drop.

Two things are really weird though:
1. You have a thing about Arthur. Claiming he was part of the games against Slavia and Levante, when he actually wasn't, is pretty telling. He has actually missed all the games when we were dominated in midfield.

2. Our core players getting older is one of the reasons why this team can't perform like in the past. There is a second reason, which is pretty important and you avoid it like the plague. Almost everyone have recognised that EV is not suited for Barcelona. No one really hates the guy, but he has proven in crucial moments that he does really bad mistakes. And he repeats them too. I will not go into the tactical aspects as I don't know what happens in training. The bottom line is, why is it so hard to acknowledge that EV is just not good enough?

Arthur did play against Levante, even though I do understand when people did not notice. Did play against Slavia away as well.

My point isn't to pick on Arthur anyway. It was a sarcastic remark considering all the hate Rakitic got. He's 22. Might reach his prime in 6 years. However, rightnow we play the worst football in ages without Rakitic being part of it and there is silence. People still pick on the garbage minutes he gets or him being in the squad at all. De Jong-Arthur not doing much of note is ignored. Of course it's simply EV's fault. But then why does the EV excuse not apply to Rakitic? Or Suarez? Let me explain. Because they are over 30. They aren't part of Barca's future. You can hope and convince yourself that with younger players who have 10 years left there is another decade of dominance awaiting. But that's pure hope and belief, no logic.

Regarding EV I don't even know why he is brought up here. I replied to a comment about Benzema compared to Suarez. Cheerleader2140 bringing him up because EV fisted his mom with his nose or something is none of my business.
 

The Observer

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Suarez, Raki , Busquets are finished, the others on that list aren't. Regarding the the new players that got bought, all I can say is that your daddy Valverde has this talent of making every player who gets bought worse.

Barca with the right adjustment, phasing out a few senior players and a competent manager can play more dynamic football than the static garbage they have been showing. But Im arguing against someone who thinks Valverde outclassed Klopp. :shrug:

If Ajax play much better football because of the hungry and young players and not mainly because Ten Hag is 10 times the manager Valverde ever will be , why doesnt Valverde just field all the new players that got bought and according to you would magically play more dynamic football ? Unless you want to tell me that the likes of Martinez , Veltman , Mazraoui ,etc are better than Lenglet , Semedo etc.

Don't be dumber than you already are. The only young player available last season was Arthur and he played whenever fit. Démbéle is always injured and shows discipline issues. Busquets, Messi, Suarez, Rakitic lack dynamism and hunger naturally but were still the best options we got. Playing Ajax football with those guys is impossible. Phasing out and rebuilding isn't done over night. Nor do Ajax always play like that. They barely won the Dutch league. Getting pumped against old slow teams in few knockout games doesn't make Ten Hag a proven genius coach who would come to Barca in it's current context and dominate.
 

messi2140

6racies Xavi
Don't be dumber than you already are. The only young player available last season was Arthur and he played whenever fit. Démbéle is always injured and shows discipline issues. Busquets, Messi, Suarez, Rakitic lack dynamism and hunger naturally but were still the best options we got. Playing Ajax football with those guys is impossible. Phasing out and rebuilding isn't done over night. Nor do Ajax always play like that. They barely won the Dutch league. Getting pumped against old slow teams in few knockout games doesn't make Ten Hag a proven genius coach who would come to Barca in it's current context and dominate.

"Arthur played whenever fit " , yet he was missing against that Liverpool game which surprisingly was the same day you went missing with your main account and started posting with your second account like a cockroach . And I guess Semedo also played instead of Sergi Roberto whenever he was fit. The whole world saw how Semedo changed the game when he got subbed in in the first leg against Liverpool only to back on the bench in the second leg.


As for Dembele , he had his best run of games around October-January then got injured and instead of letting him fully recover , the magician Ernesto decided to play him against Lyon and aggrevated his injury.

Half the players you are mentioning that are slow and lack dynamism could have easily been replaced with the players that have been bought but that would take initiative from Valverde , and the only time Valverde takes initiative is when he squats or blows his load on the likes of you and Tackle in some remote cave in Greece.
 

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