CL final: BAYERN (Munich) - FC INTER (Milano)

[Beast]

Bayerns appeal about Riberys suspension was denied by the UEFA yesterday, even though they brought a statement from Lisandro Lopze, who defended Riberys action against him. Rummenigge is still furious and now wants to appeal at the highest sporting court in lausanne. Lets find out if they are on the mafia payroll as well ...

Cause Ribery didn't deserve the red ?

is there a limit to your biased views ? when do you draw the line ?

 

[el tren]

Cause Ribery didn't deserve the red ?

is there a limit to your biased views ? when do you draw the line ?

The red was alright, but for a 'normal' foul you always get just a 1 match suspension in the CL. The UEFA however saw evidence for an unsportsmanship conduct (and do you honestly see that?), still after Lisandro Lopez said that he didnt see that by himself. If even the victim and key witness has a different view, how could the UEFA seriously come to a different conclusion? Unless they get an outside incentive to do so maybe...? Do i have to remind you of the word 'calciopoli' to stress that something is wrong with italian football?

 

[Beast]

Apologies than i understood your post in the wrong way tren

 

[Super Pippo]

Corruption has nothing to do with it. Otherwise Thiago Motta´s appeal would have been (rightly) granted and he wouldn´t be missing the finale as well.

 

[Pajo]

Now Inter is helped even in the CL?

Sometimes you people make mi sick.. One offside goal from Milito and that's it, inter is helped.. The red was deserved, so as the suspension. He could've broke his leg there, i remember many tackles like that that led to opposition players broken leg and problems in his career.. Maybe not 3 matches ban, but 2 for sure, and in that case, he would still miss the final.

If ribery plays in the final, motta should as well...

 

[Super Pippo]

Take it as a compliment. The Germans are worried that they won´t get the 4th spot, getting the towels, sorry, excuses in early by the looks of it, oh how predictable!

 

[el tren]

Corruption has nothing to do with it. Otherwise Thiago Motta´s appeal would have been (rightly) granted and he wouldn´t be missing the finale as well.

There isnt actually any other choice than to suspend Motta for a match. You can argue if the red card was right, but when the referee judged the foul as a red card, than he is always suspended for at least 1 match. An appeal would lead to a pardon only if the referee was wrong, i.e. there just was no foul at all. But it is fairly obvious that there was a foul. So its a suspension.

I might still ask how many matches Motta is suspended. If he is only suspended for a single match than i once again question the decisions made by the UEFA court ... if you see an unsportsmanship conduct in Riberys action, why not at Mottas?

Take it as a compliment. The Germans are worried that they won´t get the 4th spot, getting the towels, sorry, excuses in early by the looks of it, oh how predictable!

Thats absolutely right, but when we are worried, than what are the italians? And to what actions would that lead ... with their history in mind? oh ... how predictable ...

 

[diegomessi]

lets just be honest Inter are champions and in 10 years they will be stripped of it for match fixing/ paying off of refs

 

[Gnegneri]

Now Inter is helped even in the CL?

Sometimes you people make mi sick.. One offside goal from Milito and that's it, inter is helped.. The red was deserved, so as the suspension. He could've broke his leg there, i remember many tackles like that that led to opposition players broken leg and problems in his career.. Maybe not 3 matches ban, but 2 for sure, and in that case, he would still miss the final.

If ribery plays in the final, motta should as well...

No, Motta shouldn't play. He got a red card so has to sit out a one game ban, which is unfortunately for him the final. Same as what happened with Abidal or Fletcher last year.

Ribery got a red card in the first leg of the semis, he didn't play in the second because of suspension. If ribery got a standard 1 day suspension, he would make the final. However, he didn't get a standard one (unlike Motta, Fletcher, Abidal). I understand that Bayern tries to appeal it but to be honest, it was a brutal fault and frankly deserves 3 days. Lisandro could have been phucked for a serious amount of time.


There was more dubious refereeing than that single Milito goal though as well. If some people here make you sick, then go throw up somewhere else.

 

[Super Pippo]

There isnt actually any other choice than to suspend Motta for a match. You can argue if the red card was right, but when the referee judged the foul as a red card, than he is always suspended for at least 1 match. An appeal would lead to a pardon only if the referee was wrong, i.e. there just was no foul at all. But it is fairly obvious that there was a foul. So its a suspension.

I might still ask how many matches Motta is suspended. If he is only suspended for a single match than i once again question the decisions made by the UEFA court ... if you see an unsportsmanship conduct in Riberys action, why not at Mottas?



Thats absolutely right, but when we are worried, than what are the italians? And to what actions would that lead ... with their history in mind? oh ... how predictable ...

Because Motta didn´t desserve to be sent off, Ribery clearly did with what was proffesional incompetence at the very least.

Not many Italians involved with Inter either.

Even then, not sure what your point is, just look at Italian clubs history in finals to see that what you are saying holds no truth. And the club that actually was corrupted, Juve, actually have the most unfortunate history in CL finals.

Bundesliga is hardly whiter than white anyway when it comes to corruption, lovely though your glass house is, I wouldn´t throw too many stones around.

Saying the match is going to be fixed based on a correct appeal decission based on UEFA policy just smells of excuse making, that is all.

 

[el tren]

Dont get me wrong ... i would absolutely appreciate a fair and thus open final ... i just have my worries considering italys history in general, what is up for stakes (the 4th CL spot and Inters first real continental success since 50 yrs or so) and looking at the referees performance in the semis 1st leg. I dont know how that is totally unjustified ...

 

[Super Pippo]

Equally I could speculate that with Bundesliga recent history, 4th CL spot at stake, Bayern not having success for a decade now, and looking at the referee performance with Viola games. But it would be just that, speculation.

 

[el tren]

Ofc, bribery can go in both directions. Its just much more likely that italians do it.

 

[kresearch]

Honestly, he did..

Im not saying Pep is bad coach or something, but Mourinho DID outclassed him.. You may hate Jose, but got to admit did outclassed Pep.. Pep is great, but still has a lot to learn, especially doing subs and tactics..

Uhmmm, are you sure? Why do I think Barcelona won the last game against Inter? And, if I recall correctly, Inter were retreating like scared kids in their penalty area because this was their ONLY chance to get to the finals.

If this ugly soccer makes one a classy coach then yes, Mourinho definitely outclassed Pep. Whether it is more effective, I'd say no again. It was simply demonstrated as the only chance for Inter to go through and they were very lucky to make it.

At the other hand, Barca's loss to Inter in the first leg was mainly Barca's fault. Only half the credit goes to Inter for being able to take advantage of it.

I don't say Mourinho can't win the CL with Inter. He seems to be very good at figuring out and following his strategy to get to the final result. It does not seem to be the team or the football played but his strategy that delivers. Given all this, Jose Mourinho does NOT demonstrate class. In the best case he shows efficiency towards winning prizes.

Class is to openly make everything you can and if you lose, then admit it with dignity and congratulate your opponent. And if you win, you respect your opponent and not celebrate as if you have just killed the 3-headed dragon who kept your sleeping beauty hostage for centuries. Especially on his territory right in front of him and his supporters. This is disrespectful.

 

[Pajo]

Man teams have tried to stop Barca with defensive play, and failed miserably.. It was Joses tactics that made Barca fail, it was not their players. He used wingers, so called wingers let's say who are strikers to defend, and completely neutralize your full backs. Also, he never marked any of your players, but it was zonal marking, and it was like hand ball, moving aroung, and no way to shoot.. If that is not good tactics, i don't know what it is.

Also, i agree it wasn't good looking for the eye, but still, it is effective, if you know HOW to develop that defensive game