CL | Round of 16: PSG - FC Barcelona (5-2 agg)

[Mrgandalf]

The game will be determined by our mentality. This is the only variable issue.

 

[vegitot]

Two teams are pretty much even. Barca without Aruajo, Fati. PSG without Neymar, Di Maria.

 

[Kul_z]

The closer it gets more pessimistic i am:
This season against strong sides:

Barca - sevilla 1:1
Barca - real m 1:3
Atm - barca 1:0
Juve barca 0:2
Barca juve 0:3
Sevilla barca 2:0

Thats 4:10 goal difference with 1 win, 1 draw and 4 loses in 6 games.

The only win came with 3 rightefully denied offside goals by morata, so it wasnt that we were superior side by some margin.

Thats a terrible record

 

[malvolio]

The closer it gets more pessimistic i am:
This season against strong sides:

Barca - sevilla 1:1
Barca - real m 1:3
Atm - barca 1:0
Juve barca 0:2
Barca juve 0:3
Sevilla barca 2:0

Thats 4:10 goal difference with 1 win, 1 draw and 4 loses in 6 games.

The only win came with 3 rightefully denied offside goals by morata, so it wasnt that we were superior side by some margin.

Thats a terrible record

as long as defense is shite and we're not really a team that sits back in order to get a result, attack should have been better.

but we're hyping up players after trashing poor/mediocre teams, only to get back to reality once we face tougher sides.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

The closer it gets more pessimistic i am:
This season against strong sides:

Barca - sevilla 1:1
Barca - real m 1:3
Atm - barca 1:0
Juve barca 0:2
Barca juve 0:3
Sevilla barca 2:0

Thats 4:10 goal difference with 1 win, 1 draw and 4 loses in 6 games.

The only win came with 3 rightefully denied offside goals by morata, so it wasnt that we were superior side by some margin.

Thats a terrible record

Anyone have the total shots/chances from these games? Was it really that bad from us?

Barca vs Juve was the worst game imo. We had no chance.

 

[JamDav1982]

as long as defense is shite and we're not really a team that sits back in order to get a result, attack should have been better.

but we're hyping up players after trashing poor/mediocre teams, only to get back to reality once we face tougher sides.

I don think anyone is hyping up players vs trash teams to then have reality hit against better sides. The over riding opinion on this game seems to be Barca will get beat or it will be close.

Comments on players doing better are largely in comparison to how team was doing in past v similar standard sides and the improvement. That is not being used to then say Barca are ready to win CL and beat all comers just that still going in right direction.

Likes of Messi/Griezmann/FDJ have all been better this calendar year so far and that is what is being commented on.

It seems to be ok to 'hype' the likes of Suarez/Messi this season vs 'trash teams' but no one else.

What is you prediction for PSG and where team is?

 

[malvolio]

Anyone have the total shots/chances from these games? Was it really that bad from us?

Barca vs Juve was the worst game imo. We had no chance.

what difference does that make? it isn't like some isolated game.

expected goals, chances created or total shots doesn't mean anything in the end. what matters is scoring and winning.

 

[Skalman]

Given that we are always prone to atleast one brainfart in the back it will be difficult, Ter Stegen really needs to bring his A-game and Messi needs to step up in the Champions League then maybe we can edge them out. Second leg hopefully the defence is intact again and Lenglet out of starting 11

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

what difference does that make? it isn't like some isolated game.

expected goals, chances created or total shots doesn't mean anything in the end. what matters is scoring and winning.

It does matter when it's small sample size

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Given that we are always prone to atleast one brainfart in the back it will be difficult, Ter Stegen really needs to bring his A-game and Messi needs to step up in the Champions League then maybe we can edge them out. Second leg hopefully the defence is intact again and Lenglet out of starting 11

Good point. Steigen needs to step up. Even last season in CL Navas was key player for PSG. We need more from Steigen in big CL games.

 

[malvolio]

It seems to be ok to 'hype' the likes of Suarez/Messi this season vs 'trash teams' but no one else.

What is you prediction for PSG and where team is?

haven't hyped messi at the start of the season, agreed that he was out of form to bad. don't think i've hyped him even in 2021, just laughed at people who thought he's no top 3 player in the world.

why wouldn't i be impressed by suarez? he has won them some games by being decisive. they are on route to win the league with those goals. we are on route to not win anything.

i've exposed my prediction vs psg yesterday - draw with goals or we lose by a goal. basically a result that won't be decisive.

It does matter when it's small sample size

those 6 matches are a small sample size of good teams? we don't really face good teams every day and corona has diminished the fear factor for away venues of some medium teams.

so are you alluding that the sample is too small and we are just unlucky?

 

[JamDav1982]

haven't hyped messi at the start of the season, agreed that he was out of form to bad. don't think i've hyped him even in 2021, just laughed at people who thought he's no top 3 player in the world.

why wouldn't i be impressed by suarez? he has won them some games by being decisive. they are on route to win the league with those goals. we are on route to not win anything.

i've exposed my prediction vs psg yesterday - draw with goals or we lose by a goal. basically a result that won't be decisive.

I never said Messi or any of the other players were getting praised at start of season but since just before xmas and turn of year since team improved. Seems it is ok to hype Messi/Suarez vs the same 'trash teams' but not others.

If Messi is top three in world this season and Suarez is having a great season it is against the same 'trash teams' that others get dismissed for.

Folk are not overhyping players to extent expect them to go out and blitz the top teams just that there has been improvement from likes of Messi/FDJ/Griezmann since turn of year.

 

[Barcilliant]

This will be a great game. I predict a high scoring game Psg win 3-2 or a 3 all draw.
De Jong needs to play in midfield and press hard and track back ditto Pedri. Please no Busquets or Pjanic. We need energy and speed. Those two have none.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

haven't hyped messi at the start of the season, agreed that he was out of form to bad. don't think i've hyped him even in 2021, just laughed at people who thought he's no top 3 player in the world.

why wouldn't i be impressed by suarez? he has won them some games by being decisive. they are on route to win the league with those goals. we are on route to not win anything.

i've exposed my prediction vs psg yesterday - draw with goals or we lose by a goal. basically a result that won't be decisive.



those 6 matches are a small sample size of good teams? we don't really face good teams every day and corona has diminished the fear factor for away venues of some medium teams.

so are you alluding that the sample is too small and we are just unlucky?

I am not saying either way. I just wanted to know if statistics back these up. For example the Atletico game was very close. One mistake from us cost the game. The personal mistakes have cost us the most in my eyes.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

This will be a great game. I predict a high scoring game Psg win 3-2 or a 3 all draw.
De Jong needs to play in midfield and press hard and track back ditto Pedri. Please no Busquets or Pjanic. We need energy and speed. Those two have none.

Who do you play instead of Busi? Puig? As much as I hate Busi now, I think I start with him. We don't have any other option. Pjanic would be disaster and Puig it would be too tough start. He can come in as a sub.