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[El Gato]

When did he leave the club?

About the contract renewals he wants to be paid and he is greedy like all South American players. He has every right to ask for more money, it's the club's fault if they decide to bend over.

Mistyped obviously. "Wanted to leave the club". My fault.

He absolutely has the right to do what he likes, but to suggest he is unconditionally in love with the club and is making goo-goo eyes at the crest like some halfwit player who knows no better, even with the most recent board policies? Lol.

 

[Sorin]

Mistyped obviously. "Wanted to leave the club". My fault.

He absolutely has the right to do what he likes, but to suggest he is unconditionally in love with the club and is making goo-goo eyes at the crest like some halfwit player who knows no better, even with the most recent board policies? Lol.

City would have probably paid him 150m(gross) a year without blinking. PSG too.

I agree with the broader point though. If we'd pay Arsenal level wages, he'd fuck off faster than we could say "Messi, please stay".

 

[jamrock]

It's funny watching barca fans say Ronaldo is in his comfort zone by going to 3 different leagues, 3 different cultures (something like this is very big compared to Messi who again just stays in his Spanish comfort zone).

So 3 different leagues, different cultures, different playing styles in each & if he wins the league & CL in each it will be something historic for a player of his class.

But Messi is the one who is doing the "difficult" thing by staying at his boyhood club one of the biggest club in the world where a league title is a virtual certainty every 2 years at least, & getting a new contract every 18 months

Messi is the better player but y'all need to stop talking crap just because we are barca fans, Messi is in his comfort zone way more so than Ronaldo & will likely never leave it, which is great for us.

The man hasn't even taken the time to learn a new language so he can promote his brand more effectively for being the goat, he is so stuck in his zone of being the best, and no one gives me he doesn't care about that he only cares about the game bullshit, then why does he ask for a raise damn near every year.

As I said somewhere a few months back Ronaldo through lucking his way to title with his country & winning all these tittles in different places is writing a great end to his career where when history looks back at in it 100 years & forgets how they actually played, the majority might think ronaldo was actually better.


It would also be interested if they both left barca & madrid just to see which club would do the better job of replacing them & rebuilding there team, I think we all know which club that would be.

 

[Stoichkov1]

Mistyped obviously. "Wanted to leave the club". My fault.

He absolutely has the right to do what he likes, but to suggest he is unconditionally in love with the club and is making goo-goo eyes at the crest like some halfwit player who knows no better, even with the most recent board policies? Lol.

I mean, no player would play for their club without getting paid. Kane stated many times that he loves Tottenham and asked for a pay rise. The only player in modern football who truly loves the club is Marcelo who is quite clearly the best in the world in his position and is underpaid compared to other fullbacks.

Messi and his father are greedy but for example if in recent years Bartomeu refused to give Messi the money he asked I don't think Messi would leave Barca.

 

[Stoichkov1]

It's funny watching barca fans say Ronaldo is in his comfort zone by going to 3 different leagues, 3 different cultures (something like this is very big compared to Messi who again just stays in his Spanish comfort zone).

So 3 different leagues, different cultures, different playing styles in each & if he wins the league & CL in each it will be something historic for a player of his class.

But Messi is the one who is doing the "difficult" thing by staying at his boyhood club one of the biggest club in the world where a league title is a virtual certainty every 2 years at least, & getting a new contract every 18 months

Messi is the better player but y'all need to stop talking crap just because we are barca fans, Messi is in his comfort zone way more so than Ronaldo & will likely never leave it, which is great for us.

The man hasn't even taken the time to learn a new language so he can promote his brand more effectively for being the goat, he is so stuck in his zone of being the best, and no one gives me he doesn't care about that he only cares about the game bullshit, then why does he ask for a raise damn near every year.

As I said somewhere a few months back Ronaldo through lucking his way to title with his country & winning all these tittles in different places is writing a great end to his career where when history looks back at in it 100 years & forgets how they actually played, the majority might think ronaldo was actually better.


It would also be interested if they both left barca & madrid just to see which club would do the better job of replacing them & rebuilding there team, I think we all know which club that would be.

Messi isn't the one who is playing in a one team league at the moment.

 

[GOAT_SUAREZ]

Mistyped obviously. "Wanted to leave the club". My fault.

He absolutely has the right to do what he likes, but to suggest he is unconditionally in love with the club and is making goo-goo eyes at the crest like some halfwit player who knows no better, even with the most recent board policies? Lol.

Messi isn't in love with the club. He is greedy.

 

[Sorin]

Seems like staying with one team all career is only regarded poorly in football. Everywhere else it's regarded as a greater legacy to play and win for a single team for all career. At least on par with a mover who wins with different teams anyway.

Also, Maldini more than a decade ago, didn't have a problem with spending 25 years with the same club. Same with Ferguson and his United legacy who spans for almost 30 years. Now, for some reason, it's an issue when it comes to Messi.

What a load of rubbish.

EDIT: Could also add Pele, Beckenbauer etc. who played all their peak and prime years for one team only. 2 fecking goats no less.

 

[wisconsincule]

He knows he is the inferior player so e is trying to do everything possible to make himself look like the best. I’m glad he’s gone. I don’t watch Italian football so I won’t have anymore contact with this douche bag outside of the champions league. Happy days.

 

[El Gato]

I mean, no player would play for their club without getting paid. Kane stated many times that he loves Tottenham and asked for a pay rise. The only player in modern football who truly loves the club is Marcelo who is quite clearly the best in the world in his position and is underpaid compared to other fullbacks.

Messi and his father are greedy but for example if in recent years Bartomeu refused to give Messi the money he asked I don't think Messi would leave Barca.

"without getting paid"... It's such a can of worms. There are great players, some of the best at their positions who at 26-30 are very low in the wage ladder. Carvajal makes something like £70k per week which is the wage Asensio is getting and he's arguably top3 RB on the planet. When you're a forward and you're pretty much treated as the centrepiece who HAS TO perform for the team to win regularly, it is absolutely fair to be a top earner. But in the region of 20-30M per year? I don't think anybody deserves this kind of money. It is not my place to tell any club how much they should pay their players, but I totally frown upon it seeing how some top players are more than comfortable earning a good wage in the region of 8-15M per year. Iniestas and Xavis did it so what makes scorers so different? It's not like they have more expenses to cover...

[MENTION=20446]Sorin[/MENTION]
It's not an issue at all. Where do you get this idea? [MENTION=15376]DonAK[/MENTION] said it pretty well. Ambition-driven world where "but he didn't do it in Italy+Spain+UK did he?" attitude is where this comes from and it's not always a correct standard to apply.

 

[RMU ReBorn]

Ronaldo was their best Player in the last years in CL and the main reason for 4 wins in 5 years. Modric was their second best Player, both together were unstoppable.

Nop . Modric was their best player and the unstoppable force . That's why they couldn't win a single Cl from 2009-2013

 

[El Flaco]

Seems like staying with one team all career is only regarded poorly in football. Everywhere else it's regarded as a greater legacy to play and win for a single team for all career. At least on par with a mover who wins with different teams anyway.

Also, Maldini more than a decade ago, didn't have a problem with spending 25 years with the same club. Same with Ferguson and his United legacy who spans for almost 30 years. Now, for some reason, it's an issue when it comes to Messi.

What a load of rubbish.

Messi is probably the only player who gets criticized for being a one-club man as a way to discredit him.

The likes of Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol & Valdes were never questioned for being lojal instead of joining an another club outside LaLiga during their peak years.

 

[behindbrowneyes]

RM will miss him. He was crucial in his 9 years he was there and you simply can't replace him directly the same way we won't be able to replace Leo. Selling a 33yo for 100M is a pretty good business though, even in today's market. CR literally didn't cost them anything apart from salary, like he was a player from their youth.

 

[RMU ReBorn]

It's funny watching barca fans say Ronaldo is in his comfort zone by going to 3 different leagues, 3 different cultures (something like this is very big compared to Messi who again just stays in his Spanish comfort zone).

So 3 different leagues, different cultures, different playing styles in each & if he wins the league & CL in each it will be something historic for a player of his class.

But Messi is the one who is doing the "difficult" thing by staying at his boyhood club one of the biggest club in the world where a league title is a virtual certainty every 2 years at least, & getting a new contract every 18 months

Messi is the better player but y'all need to stop talking crap just because we are barca fans, Messi is in his comfort zone way more so than Ronaldo & will likely never leave it, which is great for us.

The man hasn't even taken the time to learn a new language so he can promote his brand more effectively for being the goat, he is so stuck in his zone of being the best, and no one gives me he doesn't care about that he only cares about the game bullshit, then why does he ask for a raise damn near every year.

As I said somewhere a few months back Ronaldo through lucking his way to title with his country & winning all these tittles in different places is writing a great end to his career where when history looks back at in it 100 years & forgets how they actually played, the majority might think ronaldo was actually better.


It would also be interested if they both left barca & madrid just to see which club would do the better job of replacing them & rebuilding there team, I think we all know which club that would be.

League title is virtually guaranteed ? . Messi is the reason why we are domination the league for the past decade or so . Unlike in Italy were Juve will walk over the league even if they don't have Ronaldo . Man united were treble winners and the biggest brand in world football when Ferguson literally spoonfed penaldo with european culture and tactics for 3&4 seasons . Messi who was born in Argentina had to take the hard yard to join a European club leaving his home at such a young age with a growth hormone deficiency and had to convince Barcelona board to sign him . Let's check how many foreign players were enrolled by La masia at that time . That's Messi's legacy . He had to adapt to the new culture , language , climate and everything at 15 and his club wasn't a super syan force in European football when he arrived . Figo just abandoned us and Gaspart was ruining Barca . Messi grew up watching us finishing 6th in the table . Our rise to the helm of European football was along with Messi's growth to the best player in the world unlike in England were Man united was a force to reckon with , managed by arguably greatest manager ever. Looks like staying with one club adjusting to change in managers , players , system is such an easy thing as per genius people like you . what's the different culture you are talking about ? England , Italy and spain is So much different from Argentina and Spain huh ? .


whole post is plane stupid ,hence i am highlighting the most stupid statement among that . Zlatan has played in 5-6 different league's , and should be rated as the best striker ever ahead of Romario , Van basten R9 , Henry , Batigol etc

 

[Luftstalag14]

Seems like staying with one team all career is only regarded poorly in football. Everywhere else it's regarded as a greater legacy to play and win for a single team for all career. At least on par with a mover who wins with different teams anyway.

Also, Maldini more than a decade ago, didn't have a problem with spending 25 years with the same club. Same with Ferguson and his United legacy who spans for almost 30 years. Now, for some reason, it's an issue when it comes to Messi.

What a load of rubbish.

Only trolls and some of the most retarded Ronaldo/Real Madrid fans have made this an issue to discredit Messi. Messi has nothing to prove and he doesn't need to prove anything to anyone.

 

[Sorin]

"without getting paid"... It's such a can of worms. There are great players, some of the best at their positions who at 26-30 are very low in the wage ladder. Carvajal makes something like £70k per week which is the wage Asensio is getting and he's arguably top3 RB on the planet. When you're a forward and you're pretty much treated as the centrepiece who HAS TO perform for the team to win regularly, it is absolutely fair to be a top earner. But in the region of 20-30M per year? I don't think anybody deserves this kind of money. It is not my place to tell any club how much they should pay their players, but I totally frown upon it seeing how some top players are more than comfortable earning a good wage in the region of 8-15M per year. Iniestas and Xavis did it so what makes scorers so different? It's not like they have more expenses to cover...

[MENTION=20446]Sorin[/MENTION]
It's not an issue at all. Where do you get this idea? [MENTION=15376]DonAK[/MENTION] said it pretty well. Ambition-driven world where "but he didn't do it in Italy+Spain+UK did he?" attitude is where this comes from and it's not always a correct standard to apply.

I understand. Not really a reply to you what you said btw, but yeah there are a lot of football media and football people who still bring this non-sense argument when comparing the two and for some(stupid) reason CRonaldo always ends on top of these discussions. And there are some people who swallow it whole with their eyes and ears closed. Those are the people I have an issue with.