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DonAndres

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Read the story on Deadspin. From what I read, it would qualify as **** in today's environment. The problem is that she did say no but never physically resisted.

I think this is going to get bigger. At the moment it's very low key but this could change.

There's literally a medical examination that corroborates she was assaulted and found damage near her anal area.... Just as she said she tried to roll into a ball and cover her privates but that didn't stop him as he just went for her anus instead.

Every piece of evidence Der Spiegel has published corroborates the same story. Medical report, signed statement by Ronaldo that proves his involvement, the questionnaire with his lawyers, the police report immediately after the event, etc. The only one that wasn't a scanned document was the questionnaire and Der Spiegel is maybe the LEAST likely outlet in the world to straight up forge something like that. Even more damning when Ronaldo's lawyers refused to deny the story and the validity of the questionnaire, only saying "this investigation is personally damaging to Ronaldo and therefore is wrong".

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law but let's be real he will NEVER actually get convicted of this. The truth of the matter isn't the same as the legal conviction, and the truth seems to be that he indeed did **** her. Wouldn't be surprised if there were more women out there too. It's always been clear he's a psychologically fucked human being in good ways and bad.
 

BusiTheKing

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The overall reaction from football twitter is disgusting. The overall lack of media coverage is embarrassing, but it's slowly getting there.

Fucking slimy piece of filth. Wouldn't be surprised if the accusations from 2005 were true as well.
 

Yannik

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Even more damning when Ronaldo's lawyers refused to deny the story and the validity of the questionnaire, only saying "this investigation is personally damaging to Ronaldo and therefore is wrong".

This I found exceptional. Ronaldo's lawyer camp does not deny the validity of the case files or call the provided documents forged, but they simply state "this is private material. Stop publicizing those papers." I don't want to be that guy that judges him before his guilt is proven in a court, but I don't know what to think of this now. Even if nothing comes out of this, I'll have a hard time convincing myself that he must've been totally innocent then.
 

Barcilliant

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There's literally a medical examination that corroborates she was assaulted and found damage near her anal area.... Just as she said she tried to roll into a ball and cover her privates but that didn't stop him as he just went for her anus instead.

Every piece of evidence Der Spiegel has published corroborates the same story. Medical report, signed statement by Ronaldo that proves his involvement, the questionnaire with his lawyers, the police report immediately after the event, etc. The only one that wasn't a scanned document was the questionnaire and Der Spiegel is maybe the LEAST likely outlet in the world to straight up forge something like that. Even more damning when Ronaldo's lawyers refused to deny the story and the validity of the questionnaire, only saying "this investigation is personally damaging to Ronaldo and therefore is wrong".

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law but let's be real he will NEVER actually get convicted of this. The truth of the matter isn't the same as the legal conviction, and the truth seems to be that he indeed did **** her. Wouldn't be surprised if there were more women out there too. It's always been clear he's a psychologically fucked human being in good ways and bad.

Still difficult to prove. Couples have rough sex and damage can be done in the genital areas both male and female.

There's no doubt that Ronaldo is an unstable person mentally. Anyone who takes himself that seriously has to be. He has serious issues and if he's guilty he should be given the maximum. Proving this is going to be tough.
 

Yannik

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Still difficult to prove. Couples have rough sex and damage can be done in the genital areas both male and female.

Yeah couples have rough sex, but Ronaldo's statement literally says "She said no and stop several times". If true, this combined with the medical findings is not couple stuff.
 

BusiTheKing

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If he's innocent, then she would basically have to be a criminal mastermind orchestrating a mass conspiracy, forging and leaking intricate legal documents with signatures between lawyers, forging proof of medical examinations, stringing along and manipulating a team of 20+ german investigative journalists working for one of the most reputable papers in the world, convincing her father, mother and brother to lie about her post-traumatic stress disorder and depression.

If Ronaldo had a clean conscience and nothing to hide, why would he have to start pushing narratives in order to discredit the accusor instead of just pleading innocence?

That last part is not damning evidence at all, I just felt disgusted at that way he dismissed it, if (which I believe) it's true what living hell of mental instability she went through following the incident.
 
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DonAndres

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Still difficult to prove. Couples have rough sex and damage can be done in the genital areas both male and female.

There's no doubt that Ronaldo is an unstable person mentally. Anyone who takes himself that seriously has to be. He has serious issues and if he's guilty he should be given the maximum. Proving this is going to be tough.

The police report from back in 2009 says she was visibly upset and crying when she reported it. Her mother also said it was a difficult task to console her and help her. I think both of the current articles cite that she has PTSD and never fully recovered psychologically from the event. Hard to look at all that and say it could've been consensual. If it was consensual but she just wants money/fame why would she not have come forward earlier when she was expressing her suffering?

Hard to imagine she falsified the claim for the purposes of a personal agenda, refused to name him/dropped it, and then picked up that personal agenda again several years later. If that was true there wouldn't have been records of her suffering psychologically back at the time in 2009 and only recently would she be claiming personal damages. But instead the evidence of damages is consistent throughout the years.

As far as proof goes this case has more substantial proof than I've seen in a VAST majority of sexual assault cases, including Kavenaugh. If enough time/resources goes into this then I could easily see her winning a civil case, or having the leverage to demand a hefty settlement.
 

Givenchy

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I haven't been following this that closely (not sure i want to) but from what i gather the two of them planned consensual straight sex until Ronaldo decided to try sodomize her? she says no and he goes ahead anyway.

I read this on another forum:

Given how much pride he takes in his body, from the report, am finding it a little hard to believe him having unprotected anal sex with someone he just met

pretty crazy stuff
 

El Flaco

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Der Spiegel sports editor Christoph Winterbach provides insight on the recent Ronaldo r.a.p.e. allegation article.

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clemente

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Yeah at this point it has to be real, have to believe Spiegel on this one, and they are the most reliable paper.
It surprises me how low key everything is, if it was about Messi, this would be all over the place.
 
In Madrid Ronaldo averaged 22 passes (1,4 key passes per game) per game and got 5 assists in LaLiga last season. Now he averages 33 passes (2,1 key passes per game) and already has 4 assists.
He changed his style of play in Italia, dribble much more, creating a lot of chances and that with nearly 34 years!Incredible!
 
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Aryagorn

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In Madrid Ronaldo averaged 22 passes (1,4 key passes per game) per game and got 5 assists in LaLiga last season. Now he averages 33 passes (2,1 key passes per game) and already has 4 assists.
He changed his style of play in Italia, dribble much more, creating a lot of chances and that with nearly 34 years!Incredible!

Considering the fact that 3 of those assists happened in a single match and most of the assists were misplaced shots bounced back to his team mates - I wonder if this can be taken seriously. Too small a sample and all
 
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