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[JamDav1982]

Real Madrid winning the Champions League without Ronaldo has got to be eating away at him.

His ego got to big after the 3 peat and now he has been exposed after leaving Madrid.

He hasnt been exposed at all.

Scored plenty goals and did what both United and Juve bought him for and at 37 there is barely any players in history at that level.

His issue is same as Messi to a large extent.. have to give up a fair bit for that style and both those teams need to rebuild and doesnt suit either all that much.

 

[Sailor Mars]

He hasnt been exposed at all.

Scored plenty goals and did what both United and Juve bought him for and at 37 there is barely any players in history at that level.

His issue is same as Messi to a large extent.. have to give up a fair bit for that style and both those teams need to rebuild and doesnt suit either all that much.

He has been exposed for not being as integral to Real Madrid's success as some might have thought he was. Largely the same core from the 3peat has found success without him.

Still going to go down as a legend and he did put up big goal numbers in the CL knockout stages, but there is certainly a bit of a damper put on his legacy by RM's recent success.

 

[Temptation]

Real Madrid winning the Champions League without Ronaldo has got to be eating away at him.

His ego got to big after the 3 peat and now he has been exposed after leaving Madrid.

Don't know if it's eating him away but saying he got exposed is simply stupid.

He's still the best CL player ever and he has also won the competition without Madrid before so these things don't mean anything in that context.

Neither Messi nor Ronaldo were carrying their respective clubs. The clubs were both playing to get the best out of them and suiting them. Those carry-job theories are just rubbish fanboy propaganda. Barca and RM are 2 massive institutions. And for the record, BARCA AND MADRID HAVE GIVEN MESSI AND RONALDO JUST AS MUCH AS THEY HAVE GIVEN THE CLUBS.

The way Ronaldo has performed in his mid to late thirties will always be praised a few years down the line. It's a damn good decline. Better than some World Class players' peaks.

The only people who got exposed are the toxic Messi-Ronaldo fanboys who thought the sun shines outta their idol's arse and they can carry any good team to CL trophies.

Football will always be a team sport. Madrid and Barca won so much last decade because they had anazing TEAMS. And yeah, ofcourse most top teams have a player that stands out more than the others.

 

[Givenchy]

Real Madrid winning the Champions League without Ronaldo has got to be eating away at him.

His ego got to big after the 3 peat and now he has been exposed after leaving Madrid.

Worst part is though, with the state of football rn, he could end up going back to Madrid and winning another CL next season

 

[JamDav1982]

He has been exposed for not being as integral to Real Madrid's success as some might have thought he was. Largely the same core from the 3peat has found success without him.

Still going to go down as a legend and he did put up big goal numbers in the CL knockout stages, but there is certainly a bit of a damper put on his legacy by RM's recent success.

Utter nonsense.

He is the best CL player of all time and hugely influential in 4 CL wins in 5 years and them winning it again doesnt impact that.

Far from 'largely same team'.

Courtois
Militao
Mendy
Alaba
Vini Jnr
Rodrygo
Valverde
Camavinga

None of them there as part of previous winning teams.

Goes to best league in world at 37 and scores 20+ while being shortlisted by fellow pros for best player in league and that is him being 'exposed' as former club won without him.

As bad as the shite that gets spoken about Messi on other side.

 

[Morten]

He has been exposed for not being as integral to Real Madrid's success as some might have thought he was. Largely the same core from the 3peat has found success without him.

Still going to go down as a legend and he did put up big goal numbers in the CL knockout stages, but there is certainly a bit of a damper put on his legacy by RM's recent success.

Recency bias is so lame.

 

[Temptation]

He has been exposed for not being as integral to Real Madrid's success as some might have thought he was. Largely the same core from the 3peat has found success without him.

Still going to go down as a legend and he did put up big goal numbers in the CL knockout stages, but there is certainly a bit of a damper put on his legacy by RM's recent success.

Bollox. This is the part where you transition from a Messi fan to a "Messiboy" and you know it.

 

[El Gato]

He's literally Real's topscorer. Integral by design of team around him. Nonsense to claim he wasn't critical to the teams he played in. He's the main reason we used to break 100 goal barrier and couldn't get anywhere near it after he left

 

[Messigician]

Muh new challenge n shit

 

[Sailor Mars]

Utter nonsense.

He is the best CL player of all time and hugely influential in 4 CL wins in 5 years and them winning it again doesnt impact that.

Far from 'largely same team'.

Courtois
Militao
Mendy
Alaba
Vini Jnr
Rodrygo
Valverde
Camavinga

None of them there as part of previous winning teams.

Goes to best league in world at 37 and scores 20+ while being shortlisted by fellow pros for best player in league and that is him being 'exposed' as former club won without him.

As bad as the shite that gets spoken about Messi on other side.

Vini and Courtois, yes. The rest on your list are interchangeable bit part players. Along with Vini and Courtois, Benz and the midfield 3 were most important to RM's CL win this year. Its essentially the same core from the 3 peat.

He got exposed in that he wasn't as vital to RM's CL success as many thought he was. His past season with Man U doesn't move the needle either way, despite whatever votes he got from other pros.

 

[Sailor Mars]

Recency bias is so lame.

Not a bias, its a truth that has been realized recently by more and more people.

 

[JamDav1982]

Vini and Courtois, yes. The rest on your list are interchangeable bit part players. Along with Vini and Courtois, Benz and the midfield 3 were most important to RM's CL win this year. Its essentially the same core from the 3 peat.

He got exposed in that he wasn't as vital to RM's CL success as many thought he was. His past season with Man U doesn't move the needle either way, despite whatever votes he got from other pros.

You are trying too hard.

They won 4 of 5 with Ronaldo and then won one with largely different team four years later.

It has absolutely no impact on his legacy bar some desperate Messi fan boys trying to find something in it.

The MOTM in final, the player who made goal and player who scored it.. none of them in Ronaldos side that won.

He was absolutely as vital now as he was a a couple months back.

His past season is credit to him at that age to still be performing at that level.

 

[Sailor Mars]

He's literally Real's topscorer. Integral by design of team around him. Nonsense to claim he wasn't critical to the teams he played in. He's the main reason we used to break 100 goal barrier and couldn't get anywhere near it after he left

No one claimed he wasn't critical/integral to the team. His supporting cast just didn't get as much recognition for the role they played and how much they contributed to his success. Most notably, Benzema, among others.

 

[Sailor Mars]

Bollox. This is the part where you transition from a Messi fan to a "Messiboy" and you know it.

Messi wasn't mentioned. Keep chasing shadows.

 

[JamDav1982]

No one claimed he wasn't critical/integral to the team. His supporting cast just didn't get as much recognition for the role they played and how much they contributed to his success. Most notably, Benzema, among others.

Benzema now is a totally different player and was never as important back then.

Can say exact same about Messi... players who were massively important get forgotten a bit.

Happens all the time with star players getting most of credit.. but Ronaldo earned it. He is top CL player ever.

I very much doubt you would have been accepting for past three seasons prior to this when Real were struggling in CL with team more similar to the one Ronaldo meant much.

If anything with the team more similar to one Ronaldo was in they were eliminated in last 16 twice in 3 years of CL after he won 3 in a row with them and 4 in 5 years.

Were you claiming in those three years Ronaldo deserves more credit for Reals CL wins than got at time? Doubt it.

Works both ways.