Cr150

[xavisionary]

You have to see the irrational lose lose situation you put Ronaldo in every time he takes to the field.

He's not a rival anymore, just enjoy him while you can.

 

[Latschenkiefer]

For me there was never anything to enjoy about his playing style. I watched quite a few Real Madrid games over the years because I always wanted to know how strong they are and sometimes he was just hilariously bad at everything. Either that or just boring to watch with his clueless free kicks and long shots and his camping in the box with very few touches as soon as he realised that he is not skillful enough for the wing. For me CR is the player you watch if you are only there for counting the goals and see the results. But if football would always be like CR7 football, I would be a tennis fan.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

For me there was never anything to enjoy about his playing style. I watched quite a few Real Madrid games over the years because I always wanted to know how strong they are and sometimes he was just hilariously bad at everything. Either that or just boring to watch with his clueless free kicks and long shots and his camping in the box with very few touches as soon as he realised that he is not skillful enough for the wing. For me CR is the player you watch if you are only there for counting the goals and see the results. But if football would always be like CR7 football, I would be a tennis fan.

True. That's why I don't understand people defending Ronaldo. You are not fan of beautiful football if you prefer Ronaldo over Messi. Messi is more effective and plays better football, no comparison for me.

 

[NoWinNoFee]

For me there was never anything to enjoy about his playing style. I watched quite a few Real Madrid games over the years because I always wanted to know how strong they are and sometimes he was just hilariously bad at everything. Either that or just boring to watch with his clueless free kicks and long shots and his camping in the box with very few touches as soon as he realised that he is not skillful enough for the wing. For me CR is the player you watch if you are only there for counting the goals and see the results. But if football would always be like CR7 football, I would be a tennis fan.

I hate comments like this regarding an all-time great.

I saw comments like this of people trying to play down Scholes and Giggs' career because 'younger' people only saw them in their late 30's and in Giggs' case early 40's, so how old are you?

It would be like Messi playing until he's 36/37 but having a massive decline 32/33 and a young person on the internet with not much memory of what he was like the years before, thinking they know all about his career and how he played and deeming him 'overrated' and not fit to tie Mbappes shoe laces, because Mbappe may be the best player in the world during this decline and standing out above Messi.

If your at an age to remember all or a large part of Ronaldo's career, but prefer Messi, that's fine, but why can't you do this without trying to belittle Messi's main rival?

'If' Messi is the GOAT (which many on this forum believe) C.Ronaldo as won 5 Ballon d'Or's during this era, acknowledge this and acknowledge these 5 Ballon d'Or's are not just down to penalties and poaching, these 5 Ballon d'Or's are down to him being an alltime great himself.

 

[Messigician]

I hate comments like this regarding an all-time great.

I saw comments like this of people trying to play down Scholes and Giggs' career because 'younger' people only saw them in their late 30's and in Giggs' case early 40's, so how old are you?

It would be like Messi playing until he's 36/37 but having a massive decline 32/33 and a young person on the internet with not much memory of what he was like the years before, thinking they know all about his career and how he played and deeming him 'overrated' and not fit to tie Mbappes shoe laces, because Mbappe may be the best player in the world during this decline and standing out above Messi.

If your at an age to remember all or a large part of Ronaldo's career, but prefer Messi, that's fine, but why can't you do this without trying to belittle Messi's main rival?

'If' Messi is the GOAT (which many on this forum believe) C.Ronaldo as won 5 Ballon d'Or's during this era, acknowledge this and acknowledge these 5 Ballon d'Or's are not just down to penalties and poaching, these 5 Ballon d'Or's are down to him being an alltime great himself.

Underserved Ballon Dors he shoukd have 3 MAX

 

[CatalinR10]

I hate comments like this regarding an all-time great.

I saw comments like this of people trying to play down Scholes and Giggs' career because 'younger' people only saw them in their late 30's and in Giggs' case early 40's, so how old are you?

It would be like Messi playing until he's 36/37 but having a massive decline 32/33 and a young person on the internet with not much memory of what he was like the years before, thinking they know all about his career and how he played and deeming him 'overrated' and not fit to tie Mbappes shoe laces, because Mbappe may be the best player in the world during this decline and standing out above Messi.

If your at an age to remember all or a large part of Ronaldo's career, but prefer Messi, that's fine, but why can't you do this without trying to belittle Messi's main rival?

'If' Messi is the GOAT (which many on this forum believe) C.Ronaldo as won 5 Ballon d'Or's during this era, acknowledge this and acknowledge these 5 Ballon d'Or's are not just down to penalties and poaching, these 5 Ballon d'Or's are down to him being an alltime great himself.

His b'dors are thanks to RM great success in the CL.


If Ramos didn't get that equalizer vs Atletico in the dying minutes , it's bye bye b'dor for him. Same in other campaigns where there was no VAR and RM got ahead easily due to some mistakes. Not saying that he didn't deserve some of his b'dors but 5 is A LOT for someone like him.

 

[NoWinNoFee]

His b'dors are thanks to RM great success in the CL.


If Ramos didn't get that equalizer vs Atletico in the dying minutes , it's bye bye b'dor for him. Same in other campaigns where there was no VAR and RM got ahead easily due to some mistakes. Not saying that he didn't deserve some of his b'dors but 5 is A LOT for someone like him.

And Messi deserved every single one of his? Many people outside Barcelona will disagree, fact of the matter is Ronaldo does have 5 Ballon d'Ors, as won 5 Champions Leagues titles thoughout his career and was the main driving force in this happening for all his teams, his achievements are extraordinary.

 

[KingLeo10]

I hate comments like this regarding an all-time great.

I saw comments like this of people trying to play down Scholes and Giggs' career because 'younger' people only saw them in their late 30's and in Giggs' case early 40's, so how old are you?

It would be like Messi playing until he's 36/37 but having a massive decline 32/33 and a young person on the internet with not much memory of what he was like the years before, thinking they know all about his career and how he played and deeming him 'overrated' and not fit to tie Mbappes shoe laces, because Mbappe may be the best player in the world during this decline and standing out above Messi.

If your at an age to remember all or a large part of Ronaldo's career, but prefer Messi, that's fine, but why can't you do this without trying to belittle Messi's main rival?

'If' Messi is the GOAT (which many on this forum believe) C.Ronaldo as won 5 Ballon d'Or's during this era, acknowledge this and acknowledge these 5 Ballon d'Or's are not just down to penalties and poaching, these 5 Ballon d'Or's are down to him being an alltime great himself.

Welcome back [MENTION=26762]Copperpot[/MENTION]

You could have made it tougher by not mentioning Scholes and Giggs in the first 2 lines.

 

[CatalinR10]

And Messi deserved every single one of his? Many people outside Barcelona will disagree, fact of the matter is Ronaldo does have 5 Ballon d'Ors, as won 5 Champions Leagues titles thoughout his career and was the main driving force in this happening for all his teams, his achievements are extraordinary.

based on trophies won ? No.

based on individual skill and individual achievements ? He should have had more than 6.

 

[NoWinNoFee]

based on trophies won ? No.

based on individual skill and individual achievements ? He should have had more than 6.

The Ballon d’Or is not judged on individual skill. There are more aspects to football than just ‘skill’.

The Ballon d’Or is judged (or should be) who’s stood out as the best that year, who’s been the main driving force in a team’s success and the main driving force behind a team winning the Champions League (unless a World cup year), the player who does that is usually and should be the Ballon d’Or winner.

As Ronaldo won the Champions League 5 times and other titles during these years and being the stand out player in this happening, says to me he did deserve every single Ballon d’Or he’s won.

Some of the voting that happens in the Ballon d’or though ie:- tactical voting and voting for friends:-

https://e2.365dm.com/16/01/2048x1152/lionel-messi-ballon-dor-argentina-votes_3397903.jpg

And/or just being allround clueless:-

https://en.as.com/en/imagenes/2019/12/03/football/1575365108_673074_1575365240_sumario_normal.jpg

Shows the award actually has little meaning and the whole voting system needs revamping.

 

[KingLeo10]

The Ballon d’Or is not judged on individual skill. There are more aspects to football than just ‘skill’.

The Ballon d’Or is judged (or should be) who’s stood out as the best that year, who’s been the main driving force in a team’s success and the main driving force behind a team winning the Champions League (unless a World cup year), the player who does that is usually and should be the Ballon d’Or winner.

As Ronaldo won the Champions League 5 times and other titles during these years and being the stand out player in this happening, says to me he did deserve every single Ballon d’Or he’s won.

Some of the voting that happens in the Ballon d’or though ie:- tactical voting and voting for friends:-

https://e2.365dm.com/16/01/2048x1152/lionel-messi-ballon-dor-argentina-votes_3397903.jpg

And/or just being allround clueless:-

https://en.as.com/en/imagenes/2019/12/03/football/1575365108_673074_1575365240_sumario_normal.jpg

Shows the award actually has little meaning and the whole voting system needs revamping.

Why don't you post CR7's top 3 from the last 10 years to make your point about tactical voting.

Messi's had CR7 in his top 3 (even had him 2 this year in a super close race) but CR7's never had Messi top 3.

What do you say to that? Unless you believe Messi was never top 3 in the world at any point.

Don't try to pass off as an impartial observer coming to 'unfairly treated' CR7's defense when you're anything but.

 

[CatalinR10]

The Ballon d’Or is not judged on individual skill. There are more aspects to football than just ‘skill’.

The Ballon d’Or is judged (or should be) who’s stood out as the best that year, who’s been the main driving force in a team’s success and the main driving force behind a team winning the Champions League (unless a World cup year), the player who does that is usually and should be the Ballon d’Or winner.

As Ronaldo won the Champions League 5 times and other titles during these years and the stand out player in this happening, says to me he did deserve every single Ballon d’Or he’s won.

Some of the voting that happens in the Ballon d’or though ie:- tactical voting and voting for friends:-

https://e2.365dm.com/16/01/2048x1152/lionel-messi-ballon-dor-argentina-votes_3397903.jpg

And/or just being allround clueless:-

https://en.as.com/en/imagenes/2019/12/03/football/1575365108_673074_1575365240_sumario_normal.jpg

Shows the award actually has little meaning and the whole voting system needs revamping.

Messi stood out as the best in every ballon d'or he won and in more years that he didn't win it. Tactical voting happens every year , funny that you put a pic of Messi's votes in 2015 when Barca won the CL , while actually it's nothing wrong with that top 3 , to try to prove something. CR left the Portugal captaincy before the voting ( can't remember in what year ) so that the guy who was captain instead of him , could vote for CR at 1st place. He went crying in the media so that Blatter reopened the votes after his game vs Sweden just so that he can win the B'dor with 0 trophies that year. IIRC he had in total 1-3% more votes than Messi. In that year he legit stole the bdor from Messi. In some of the CL CR won with RM , he wasn't the standout player . Just because he scored some unimportant goals when the game was already over and went missing in some year's semifinals or finals , doesn't make him the main driving force just because he was the competition goalscorer , over other teammates who had a bigger impact.

 

[raskolnikov]

For me Ronaldo was fun to watch at United. But even then his arrogance and constant attention whoring was a turn off.
Been like that from the start, always trying to get the camera's on him.

It started with clueless stepovers that frustrated Ferguson like hell to get on the highlight reel with a poor dinho impersonation untill ge figured out scoring goals got even more attention.

People mention Ramos, eder,refs and others saving him but lets go baxk further. Cl final 2008. He scored a great header during the match but choked and missed the penalty. If Terry doesnt slip then he would have been in tears again and lose out on the ballon d'or. Then van der sar steps up big time to save him and win united a cl. Everyone celebrates with him except for Ronaldo who celebrates alone with all the cameras on him again.

The attention seeking and insecure narcissm is a recurring theme troughout his career. From the messi obsession with stats, not celebrating with teammates ih cl, coaching portugal., milking blatters joke for a pity ballon d'or, the documentary, the cringy celebrations, pr and cult like family members...

The whole thing in a nutshell is an insecure narcisist overachieving with goat marketing in the social media era riding messi's coattail in the atg debate.
Not much to enjoy about unless you are a fanboy of his. The only good thing is that is possibly pushed messi to be evem better.

 

[Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor]

I hate comments like this regarding an all-time great.

I saw comments like this of people trying to play down Scholes and Giggs' career because 'younger' people only saw them in their late 30's and in Giggs' case early 40's, so how old are you?

It would be like Messi playing until he's 36/37 but having a massive decline 32/33 and a young person on the internet with not much memory of what he was like the years before, thinking they know all about his career and how he played and deeming him 'overrated' and not fit to tie Mbappes shoe laces, because Mbappe may be the best player in the world during this decline and standing out above Messi.

If your at an age to remember all or a large part of Ronaldo's career, but prefer Messi, that's fine, but why can't you do this without trying to belittle Messi's main rival?

'If' Messi is the GOAT (which many on this forum believe) C.Ronaldo as won 5 Ballon d'Or's during this era, acknowledge this and acknowledge these 5 Ballon d'Or's are not just down to penalties and poaching, these 5 Ballon d'Or's are down to him being an alltime great himself.

Funny you should mention Giggs and Scholes. Utd Ronaldo fanboys like to downplay the greatness of Messi by saying he only did it for one team (untrue anyway as he has 70 goals for Argentima). But they completely ignore this fact about their own stars of the past. In 2005 you would not have heard one football fan in the world downgrading Scholes 'because he only did it for one club". Anyone doing so would have quite rightly looked rather foolish.

But now it's the main stick used to beat Messi with. Says it all really about this so called Cr7 vs Ronaldo debate. It's based on nothing but pure foolishness which is disguised by it's frequency in numbers.

No onetruly believes Cr7 is better than Messi ... not even Ronaldos fans

 

[Havesaks]

Saying cr7 didn't look great in his style for most of his career, is just what nowinnofee said, wrong. It must be strong selective memory process or a fan which wasn't involved in cr7 matches for most of his career. Yes the last 3-4 years his style has lost a real lot, but before that he was sharp on the LW and looked like a warrior with killing intent to score. His runs were good with and without ball , his assisting was good, has made plenty fancy of those, his long range shooting was flashy and nice, he oozed danger everytime he had the ball or a ball was played to him. If his style was bad, you could say Messis style also looks bad because its always simple accelartion boosts and close ball control, always shooting with his left on same position just outside the box, always moving in the same pattern from the same position fro