Cristiano Ronaldo - v1

[Flavia]

I guess the debate would have to begin whether to award winners the Ballon D'Or for their individual performances, regardless of team accomplishments. Example: Messi, when Barca only won the CDR that year. Or whether to award the Ballon D'Or for great individual performances, coupled with the team's accomplishments for the year. So in essence, the issue comes down to whether team accomplishments should be considered when the voting begins.

This goes deeper into philosophical territory. We would have to decide whether football is truly a team sport and that teams win games or whether it comes down to certain individuals on a team to carry the team forward to victory. The answer is probably somewhere in between, but ask yourself, "would this team have won without the individual's performance on this team?" If the answer is no, then the individual performance reigns supreme over the team's collective effort. If that is so, then the Ballon D'Or should be about the individual's performance regardless of whether the team managed to win any trophies that year.

It's a difficult answer and a more difficult question, but we shouldn't give up establishing criteria just because they are difficult.

Establishing such criteria wouldn't work. All of these are subjective, and people would still vote for whoever they want.

 

[MVBarcaFan]

I agree with your second point that people would still vote for whomever they want, but we would have standards.

I don't agree that everything is subjective. Standards exist outside of us, but people have their own interpretations of them. We shouldn't just give up because we won't reach perfect laws or criteria. Why have laws (outside of football) then in the first place since we are infallible humans and can't reach perfection?

 

[Flavia]

I agree with your second point that people would still vote for whomever they want, but we would have standards.

I don't agree that everything is subjective. Standards exist outside of us, but people have their own interpretations of them. We shouldn't just give up because we won't reach perfect laws or criteria. Why have laws (outside of football) then in the first place since we are infallible humans and can't reach perfection?

When up to voting, criteria is subjetive, and any guideline can help, but in the end people will vote for whoever they want to. Any marca journalist, voting for bdor or the uefa best player lately, has always voted for cr, for example. Or any of the nt captains, being a fan of Messi or cr, will also vote for them.

 

[MVBarcaFan]

When up to voting, criteria is subjetive, and any guideline can help, but in the end people will vote for whoever they want to. Any marca journalist, voting for bdor or the uefa best player lately, has always voted for cr, for example. Or any of the nt captains, being a fan of Messi or cr, will also vote for them.

Good enough for me.

 

[Luftstalag14]

So what do you take? Consistent performances of Ronaldo or Messi's ups and downs? Messi hasn't had any particular terrible performances that I can recall from memory, but I do remember him disappearing and not being involved in some games. Blame it on the injury or what have you, but as it pains me to say it, we can't dabble in the hypothetical and wonder what would happen if Messi was not injured. We have to deal with the fact and the fact is Ronaldo has been consistent throughout the year and deserves it.

To be fair, so has CR7. It is not that CR7 has consistently had good games, let's not kid ourselves. He is good at disappearing pretty much the whole game or having a poor game where he has had no impact on the game at all, and BAM, he grasped the one opportunity to score a goal (some of which were penalties). His work rate is second to none, he is often rewarded for keeping trying.

 

[coura]

CR deserves it but i would laugh so hard if he lose. LOL

Life´s not fair. ahahah

 

[suckabov]

Just read that CR was welcomed by a band that played the Pippi Longstooking theme to him in Sweden If true, that has to be one of the best things ever.

 

[Badger]

Ballon D'or is his this year.

 

[Gohan]

He deserves it.. But next year Messi will reclaim his throne!

 

[BarcaGirl]

He deserves it, yes, but I still think he won't win it.

 

[suckabov]

Votes are closed anyway.

 

[ebc_99]

He deserves it more than Ribery, but you guys forget how far Messi was above him before his injuries, there is only one man who deserves it and that man is Messi.

 

[darthvader7888]

He deserves it more than Ribery, but you guys forget how far Messi was above him before his injuries, there is only one man who deserves it and that man is Messi.

Messi is a far better player without a doubt, but Ronaldo's had a better year due to Messi's injuries. I hate to say it, but he deserves the Ballon d'or imo.

If Ronaldo does win it, who knows, maybe it could be a blessing in disguise. It could fire Messi up. Not saying Messi is unmotivated or anything, but that kind of thing can't hurt.

 

[ThwiX]

I admit that he deserves it, but the funny thing is that he will still not win it. It's still going to be Messi winning because of his reputation. Yeah, it shouldn't be like that, but it just is.

 

[DonAK]

Hold your horses.

FIFA has decided to re-open the Ballon d'Or vote, that was initially closed on 15 Nov, until 29 Nov. Votes can be submitted or changed. [md]