Cristiano Ronaldo - v1

NotInHere

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Ronaldo IS an ego maniac, but if we put that to the side, his closing in on Leo's records, and that alone to me deserves praise. Whether you like him or not, he will most likely win the Balon De Oro for his 2nd consecutive year, he won't if Leo has something to say come the World Cup and part of next season.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
if you don't follow the news why do you argue for the sake of arguing ? It's ok that you don't give a damn about a player i do that but i don't go debating about that player & his condition talking like you do without the slightest information ..
I don't know if the game wasn't held in Lisbon what would he do .. you'd have to ask him i simply put the note for those who ask why because this was reported as Ronaldo first heartbreak as a player losing the final in his city in front of his home crowd against the underdogs Greece and yesterday came close to doing so again . I mean he didn't even do that when he scored his first meaningful goal vs Barca in the CDR final 3 years ago... it was an excessive celebration and for a reason

Ronaldo is a goal scoring machine ... there is no easy goals , when your team (not just you any team ) lose points because someone with talent was slacking off in his tap in or header you'd want a player like Ronaldo or like Inzaghi .. somewhere outthere teams lose trophies because someone can't be in the right spot at the right time and put that goal in .. show me a player with 100 % games all season ? not even Suarez or Ibra or Di Maria or Messi ..it's normal to have subpar performance over 50 games but scoring even when you are bad is what make Ronaldo contribution positive for the team overall ... just FYI

I don't care about his likeability at all , nor i argue his case of X vs Y or who is better , who is more talented (Messi in the current generation as i said many times here ) that's all pointless time wasted . a player contribution on the pitch is what matter to my team not how many rival team fans like him or what he wear , do outside the game & training time ... if you want to argue his likeability please do so with someone who cares about how many people like X or Y .. i only care about how many goals this or that player scored for my team

Talking about excessive celebrations, almost everyone of his looks quite excessive to me. It is always Critiano Ronaldo front and center. That's just the way it is you might say and it doesn't matter as long as he scores for your team, but hey, we are not Real Madrid fans here so we certainly critique on these things that you don't care about. Again, if you don't like reading these comments please kindly avoid this thread.

As to his performance this season, of course nobody has a 100% record, everyone has good days and bad days. I felt Ronaldo was very good toward the end of last year when Messi was out injured, but since the beginning of 2014 Ronaldo has been very meh. To me he had more bad games than good games, but again, you don't care as long as he scores. I do know some Real Madrid fans who do, people who even went as far as calling him a cancer cell, someone who jeopardized the team. But hey, who cares, right, as long as he keeps scoring for you?
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Ronaldo IS an ego maniac, but if we put that to the side, his closing in on Leo's records, and that alone to me deserves praise. Whether you like him or not, he will most likely win the Balon De Oro for his 2nd consecutive year, he won't if Leo has something to say come the World Cup and part of next season.

It is his to lose, but it is not the end of the world since BD is becoming less and less meaningful these days. Many say it is just a popularity contest if you ask fans of other teams (other than Barca and Real Madrid). Not that I am bitter that Messi might not win it, just saying BD has increasingly lost its glamour and credibility. I'd rather Messi wins us more titles and has many more good games than winning the BD.
 
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Flavia

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Luftstalag14, please don't post such things again... Thanks.

Beast, his celebrations were too much. Even if it was about that euro. It's who he is, but that trait of his is what makes him so determined. But it's ridiculous how he made a fuss about that penalty. So lame I saw some madridistas complaining.
 

Beast

The Observer
Talking about excessive celebrations, almost everyone of his looks quite excessive to me. It is always Critiano Ronaldo front and center. That's just the way it is you might say and it doesn't matter as long as he scores for your team, but hey, we are not Real Madrid fans here so we certainly critique on these things that you don't care about. Again, if you don't like reading these comments please kindly avoid this thread.

As to his performance this season, of course nobody has a 100% record, everyone has good days and bad days. I felt Ronaldo was very good toward the end of last year when Messi was out injured, but since the beginning of 2014 Ronaldo has been very meh. To me he had more bad games than good games, but again, you don't care as long as he scores. I do know some Real Madrid fans who do, people who even went as far as calling him a cancer cell, someone who jeopardized the team. But hey, who cares, right, as long as he keeps scoring for you?


No i don't mind anyone being critical of Ronaldo , my post was easily explaining he was injured so the criteria is faulty to judge him in the final game based on it ...
He is not Maradona not Zidane he is a goal scoring machine , most Madridista know it & appreciate it as they appreciate Benzema role is not to score all the goals but to facilitate Bale & Ronaldo goals and started to appreciate his role not his goal tally like before
it's seen in every game with the fans reaction not some random people who claim to be Madrid fans ,
Ego issues ? for sure he appears that way every game but he also excels to be the best every season that's why he works hard beyond training hours , he never had issues with a team mate at all & for any club fan that's what matter sure there is the usual debate if the club plays better without him because you don't need to look for him to score in our attacking moves however with 50 + every season & working hard makes it a a void comparison unlike say Raul (now that's a true cancer from 2004 onwards not taking away from his efforts before it & one season after it ) who demanded to play every game because of his status as a club legend despite being off form for several years.. if you think otherwise it's ok but for me i'd rather have someone who still works hard on the edge of 30 than anyone slacking in his 20's after reaching his first success
 

Beast

The Observer
Luftstalag14, please don't post such things again... Thanks.

Beast, his celebrations were too much. Even if it was about that euro. It's who he is, but that trait of his is what makes him so determined. But it's ridiculous how he made a fuss about that penalty. So lame I saw some madridistas complaining.

Flavia not arguing it was over the top as you can read i said it was excessive ... we all laughed about it even the team players (sure you saw Ramos & co laughing when he did in the game ) ... probably it was a personal demon he got rid off like winning back the BDOR this year off Messi was it worth crying ? certainly no but looked like a personal demon for me
He doesn't handle himself in the media well , that's part of his character from the calma calma to the 5 fingers X 3 for the record... he is no Becks however as i said to Lufts it all about what he do on the pitch and even when he is off form & half fit he tries hard & eventually score goals
 

NotInHere

New member
It is his to lose, but it is not the end of the world since BD is becoming less and less meaningful these days. Many say it is just a popularity contest if you ask fans of other teams (other than Barca and Real Madrid). Not that I am bitter that Messi might not win it, just saying BD has increasingly lost its glamour and credibility. I'd rather Messi wins us more titles and has many more good games than winning the BD.
Agreed but down the lane, Ronaldo and Messi will be valued by how many accolades and by how many trophies they've , and you gotta admit, Ronaldo doesn't look too shabby when you compare his with Leos.

But agreed, the Balon de Oro is now a meaningless award, it doesn't really determine whose the best player in the world, because even if Ronaldo wins it, his by no means the best player in the world.
 

NotInHere

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Ballon d or meaningless only when Messi isn't winning it. Barcaforum for you.
His not the best player in the world though, is he? his in the best TEAM in the world right now, but in no way or form is he the best player in the world.

I can't be the only one that shares this opinion
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Ballon d or meaningless only when Messi isn't winning it. Barcaforum for you.

To be fair, a lot of fans of other teams have been saying that for years, even when Messi won it. It is a fact that less and less fans take it seriously, believing it is just an award given to either Messi or Ronaldo, as long as these two still play. Messi winning it does not make it more or less meaningless.
 
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BrianSwan

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Seems odd that Cristiano has such wide lats, small arms, and average chest/shoulders. Big strong legs yes - it's needed in football. But his lats are huge.
 

CesDel

New member
Can't tell you about assists but i can tell you the goals

Semifinal vs Chelsea 0-1 ,2-2 Messi scored ZERO goals , he missed a PK in the 2-2 against 10 men Chelsea after Terry red card
Quarter final vs Milan 3-1 (Messi 2 penalties ) & 0-0 away
Round of 16 vs Bayer Leverkusen 7-1 (Messi scored 5 goals ) , 3-1 (Messi scored a goal )

Group stages
Vs Milan 2-3 1 goal Messi Penalty
Vs Viktoria Plzen (4-0 away ) 3 Messi including a penalty
Vs BATE Borisov (5-0 away ) 2 goals

So out of the 14 , 6 against one team ,4 penalties ....

See, that's why I hate stats. Messi in the tie against Chelsea in 2012, he didn't score, but he was easily the best player on the pitch. Same thing against milan in the 3-2 win, he scored just a penalty, but Messi dominated that game.

Stat's never tell the whole story, and thats why I never mention them or brag about them. I mean, compare Messi's stat this season against Messi's stats in 08/09. This year Messi had 28 goals and 11 assist in 31 games, in 08/09 Messi had 23 goals and 11 assist in 27 games. Statistically, they were just as good or he has even better stat this year, yet Messi that season was a million times better than Messi this year.

C.Ronaldo deserves alot of credit for his 17 CL goals, but I don't think that he has been the best player in the world this year, no matter how many goals he has scored.
 

dakt

Active member
Can't tell you about assists but i can tell you the goals

Semifinal vs Chelsea 0-1 ,2-2 Messi scored ZERO goals , he missed a PK in the 2-2 against 10 men Chelsea after Terry red card
Quarter final vs Milan 3-1 (Messi 2 penalties ) & 0-0 away
Round of 16 vs Bayer Leverkusen 7-1 (Messi scored 5 goals ) , 3-1 (Messi scored a goal )

Group stages
Vs Milan 2-3 1 goal Messi Penalty
Vs Viktoria Plzen (4-0 away ) 3 Messi including a penalty
Vs BATE Borisov (5-0 away ) 2 goals

So out of the 14 , 6 against one team ,4 penalties ....

So the keyword here was SEE.
In general, I challenge any madrista to show me Ronlado's top N goals and I will shows Messi's....huge, epic difference
 

CesDel

New member
So the keyword here was SEE.
In general, I challenge any madrista to show me Ronlado's top N goals and I will shows Messi's....huge, epic difference

It's not just that. I mean, in the end a goal is a goal, no matter if it's a tap-in or a run where you dribble past 5 players. That's why a player should be judge not by his numbers, but by his performance over the 90 full minutes. And it's there where Messi has a clear advantage..
 

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