Danilo Luiz da Silva

[anguy]

Danilo is also versatile and can play at CM/DM as well. In fact he started his career as a box to box player.

And it's not fair to judge his price before he even played one match for RM. Paris paid more than 30M for Marquinhos and now we all know he was worth it. At the moment it's a brilliant transfer for RM but I can see a lot here are butthurt about that.

Paris bought Marquinhos, because they had aging and often injured Silva. Plus I believe David Luis was not signed back then too. Real has young, talented and homegrown Carvajal.

And Danilo played in midfeld just in Brazil in far weaker competition , in Porto he was pure RB.

 

[raki]

Especially when Azplilicueta, a guy who's almost as good a LB as he is RB, was £7m haha.

Win some lose many. How many players does chelsea have on loan paying their wages. 35? 40?

 

[raki]

Turns out that his real transfer fee is 39.3 million euros if everything is included.

http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/04/03/primera/1428023958_318225.html

It´s true. They will pay all the comissions and formation rights. Glad to see this transfer detailed just like they did a thousand times with Neymar.
40M in a player thand ended contract in 2016. Nice move by Porto. The player refused to renew several times. United made a bid but the player prefered Madrid. Barça made a bid of 25M plus lowering Tello price but the ban situation and madrid offering more money denied any chance of him coming to barça.

 

[Kohe321]

The problem is now with Carvajal, his gametime management and subsequent future development. A player with a pricetag of nearly 40m that comes in to a team like this will most likely get to start many games just because of the price alone, and thus get the lions share of gametime that would otherwise go to Carvajal. In the beginning Danilo will need to play enough to get integrated into the team and Ancelottis system to the point where they can start fairly evaluating his performances, and then from there start implementing a real meritocracy between him and Carvajal.

If Danilo turns out to be as good as he is hyped to be, this could spell "the bench" for Carvajal. Will he be satisfied going from being a starter with RM, and a player working his way into the starting 11 of Spains NT, to becoming a benchwarmer for Danilo? Obviously not. Danilo is probably the one of the two who will have the least issue with accepting the bench in the beginning, but his price demands gametime, and if he also turns out to be better than Carvajal when he plays, then even more so. On the other hand if Carvajal wins the battle of gametime, then RM have spent 40m on a player sitting on the bench - a player with great talent and potential who needs gametime to develop further.

Having two young and talented players both with the ambition of being starters for their club and NT playing in the same position is tricky and very difficult to manage. This just shows how hard it is to find players willing to sit on the bench, but who are also good enough to keep the required level when called upon. RM could really have bought themselves a real headache (pun sort of intended ), as in the end I don't think either of them will be happy with being a benchplayer - and one of them has to.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Turns out that his real transfer fee is 39.3 million euros if everything is included.

http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/04/03/primera/1428023958_318225.html

Everything is never included when counting the transfer costs .if we count everything the numbers of every transfer will be different

 

[anguy]

Everything is never included when counting the transfer costs .if we count everything the numbers of every transfer will be different

Not true, more often it's the selling club, that pays all those costs from the money they get.

 

[CuleLife4Life]

The problem is now with Carvajal, his gametime management and subsequent future development. A player with a pricetag of nearly 40m that comes in to a team like this will most likely get to start many games just because of the price alone, and thus get the lions share of gametime that would otherwise go to Carvajal. In the beginning Danilo will need to play enough to get integrated into the team and Ancelottis system to the point where they can start fairly evaluating his performances, and then from there start implementing a real meritocracy between him and Carvajal.

If Danilo turns out to be as good as he is hyped to be, this could spell "the bench" for Carvajal. Will he be satisfied going from being a starter with RM, and a player working his way into the starting 11 of Spains NT, to becoming a benchwarmer for Danilo? Obviously not. Danilo is probably the one of the two who will have the least issue with accepting the bench in the beginning, but his price demands gametime, and if he also turns out to be better than Carvajal when he plays, then even more so. On the other hand if Carvajal wins the battle of gametime, then RM have spent 40m on a player sitting on the bench - a player with great talent and potential who needs gametime to develop further.

Having two young and talented players both with the ambition of being starters for their club and NT playing in the same position is tricky and very difficult to manage. This just shows how hard it is to find players willing to sit on the bench, but who are also good enough to keep the required level when called upon. RM could really have bought themselves a real headache (pun sort of intended ), as in the end I don't think either of them will be happy with being a benchplayer - and one of them has to.

Imo, I'm pretty sure this is the beginning of Carvajal on the bench. You can't forget who actually runs Madrid. Florentino Perez does not give a crap about being Spanish or from the academy the way most other teams do. If Carvajal was the RB they wanted to proceed with, they wouldn't have brought a 40me RB.

The token Spanish guys on the team are Iker and Ramos. Everyone else is expendable. Ramos is the worst CB they have but you never hear of them buying another CB to compete with him. Varane is a filler for when one of he or Pepe is injured but its always Pepe being talked about to be replaced by Varane. I understand age is a factor but he is probably at his best right now while Ramos isn't. Yet he has no competition.

 

[Andrew M]

Imo, I'm pretty sure this is the beginning of Carvajal on the bench. You can't forget who actually runs Madrid. Florentino Perez does not give a crap about being Spanish or from the academy the way most other teams do. If Carvajal was the RB they wanted to proceed with, they wouldn't have brought a 40me RB.

The token Spanish guys on the team are Iker and Ramos. Everyone else is expendable. Ramos is the worst CB they have but you never hear of them buying another CB to compete with him. Varane is a filler for when one of he or Pepe is injured but its always Pepe being talked about to be replaced by Varane. I understand age is a factor but he is probably at his best right now while Ramos isn't. Yet he has no competition.

How is Ramos their worst CB? Any team would have him

 

[CuleLife4Life]

How is Ramos their worst CB? Any team would have him

On form, Pepe and Varane are much better. Ramos can have fantastic displays of defense but often it happens after he causes goals. Just watch El Clasico again. He was directly responsible for both goals.

 

[anguy]

Ramos is decent defender, but his value lies in his offensive contribution. He's great in aerial duels when near opponent goal. Ironically in defense he often contributes to Real woes in defending FKs and corners.

 

[Gasgas]

Imo, I'm pretty sure this is the beginning of Carvajal on the bench. You can't forget who actually runs Madrid. Florentino Perez does not give a crap about being Spanish or from the academy the way most other teams do. If Carvajal was the RB they wanted to proceed with, they wouldn't have brought a 40me RB.

The token Spanish guys on the team are Iker and Ramos. Everyone else is expendable. Ramos is the worst CB they have but you never hear of them buying another CB to compete with him. Varane is a filler for when one of he or Pepe is injured but its always Pepe being talked about to be replaced by Varane. I understand age is a factor but he is probably at his best right now while Ramos isn't. Yet he has no competition.

Ramos is an excellent top notch CB

 

[DrPepper]

Excellent in the same kind Kompany is, yeah.

 

[Ini8]

And Thiago Silva.

 

[Barcaman]

He'll be Cuntreao v2

 

[Bertus]

He'll be Cuntreao v2

Since he signed with RM, this thread gives a kind of hostile feeling.

It's kind of weird given how Danilo is rated high in the poll we have here on BarcaForum (Would be funny to redo it from the start, to see if people have a change of mind)

All I can say is that I hope for some people that it won't end up like what happened with Marquinhos because sad fans are not a happy sight.

Anyone can dig some nasty posts about that 35M PSG paid (and it might as well reach 50M if we include everything like in that AS article because in France, we rarely get all the details of what's paid besides the "main fee"), and here we have nowadays plenty of people full of regrets that Barca missed on Marquinhos.

I dunno if Barca even had a chance, but I would want to know, because I'm too used to see the current board not doing that much to sign their main targets.

Suarez and neymar being the exception, of course.