Dayot Upamecano

[vuji_31]

I know they are not top quality but that is reality because money is going for Neymar.

 

[manuel blassi]

If thats the case and we are saving money, then better keep all our CBs(Pique, Lenglet, Umtiti) and add Todibo/Oriol as 4th option.
Why waste additional money for player thats not even better than Umtiti/Lenglet...

 

[vuji_31]

It us board logic, buy shit for more

 

[JamDav1982]

If thats the case and we are saving money, then better keep all our CBs(Pique, Lenglet, Umtiti) and add Todibo/Oriol as 4th option.
Why waste additional money for player thats not even better than Umtiti/Lenglet...

Oriol Busquets has been bang average in Dutch league at CD/DM nowhere near being ready for Barca in his main position let alone CB.

 

[LABarcaFan]

"Upamecano has agreed to joing Bayern. Either for cheaper than his release clause or on a free next year."

https://www.bild.de/wa/ll/bild-de/unangemeldet-42925516.bild.html

Seems like the rumours about him not wanting to leave Germany were true. I wouldn't be surprised if Bayern will strike up a deal to sign him for like half his release clause but with him arriving in 2021.

Not true.
Here is the material that German newspaper Bild posted.

D.Upamecano is understood to have agreed a move to Bayern Munhen, but the Bavarians aren't prepared to pay the 60 million euro release clause in his contract amid the corona virus outbreak. Bayern are now hoping it will be possible to drive down his price.

RB Leipzig CEO Oliver Mintzlaff told " Sportbuzzer" last week that the club won't sell anyone "below value."

My points here are:

1. Bayern is direct competition for RB Leipzig in Germany and they surely wouldn't want to sell one of their top two players ( D.Upamecano, T.Werner ) to them.

2. Bayern has long history of reaping every German club and getting their best players for cheap or even no money, but this time around things got changed.

3. Barcelona can easely pay that 60 mil. release clause and take Upamecano under the Karl-Heintz Rummenige's nose. I will repeat myself again. We don't need to spend 286 mil. for Neymar and Martinez. We better pay 60 + 60 mil. release clauses for Upamecano and Werner and get few more players for 25-40 mil.

 

[jamrock]

I can never understand how players from clubs that are competing with Bayern are always in such a rush to sign for them, it's not likely they are killing it in the CL either.

As bad as Barca & Madrid are they don't just rush to buy up there competitors best players with anywhere near the regularity Bayern does.

Oh well I guess that's the way it is

 

[LABarcaFan]

I can never understand how players from clubs that are competing with Bayern are always in such a rush to sign for them, it's not likely they are killing it in the CL either.

As bad as Barca & Madrid are they don't just rush to buy up there competitors best players with anywhere near the regularity Bayern does.

Oh well I guess that's the way it is

Yes, but this time it won't happen for them. Upamecano is already big name not only in Germany but in Europe and I don't see how they will reduce his price, just to accommodate their rivals from Bavaria.Again. If Barca pay that 60 mil. release clause, Upamecano will be our player because his two preferred destinations are Barcelona and Manchester United. So it's all our decision, not Bayern's.

 

[Sailor Mars]

I can never understand how players from clubs that are competing with Bayern are always in such a rush to sign for them, it's not likely they are killing it in the CL either.

As bad as Barca & Madrid are they don't just rush to buy up there competitors best players with anywhere near the regularity Bayern does.

Oh well I guess that's the way it is

I think it is because Bayern is a big club but they are, relatively speaking, not as attractive for the talent pool outside of Germany. The Premier League is in England and has tons of money, glitz, and glamour.

The Spanish and Italian leagues are also popular amongst lots of S. American players.

The Bundesliga/Germany isn't considered "sexy" and most top tier talent outside of Germany and a few European countries prefer playing for big clubs in the other leagues.

 

[khaled_a_d]

He will extend fir another year
https://www.bavarianfootballworks.c...rench-transfer-contract-extension-summer-2020

 

[Luftstalag14]

I can understand why players from Bundesliga, not just German players want to join Bayern but the way Bayern gets their signings is just pathetic, purposely waiting for players to sit out their contracts and signing them for free, possibly encouraging them to do so.

Bayern always talks about abolishing 50+1 and the greater good of Bundesliga etc., but they rarely put their money where their mouth is.

 

[Catta]

I can understand why players from Bundesliga, not just German players want to join Bayern but the way Bayern gets their signings is just pathetic, purposely waiting for players to sit out their contracts and signing them for free, possibly encouraging them to do so.

Bayern always talks about abolishing 50+1 and the greater good of Bundesliga etc., but they rarely put their money where their mouth is.

In the past I hated Bayern because of that, but nowadays I hate the other BuLi clubs, because they are letting them get away with it. Why didn't BVB let Lewa rot on the bench for a whole year, why didn't Schalke do the same to Goretzka and Nubel. Its not only them, they did that with every 'rival' they had in the league.

All those clubs are their bitches, and they deserve to watch Bayern win the title each year. I mean it was known that Lewa will sign for Bayern on a free, more than a year before it happened, while the rule is that you can't talk to a player if he has more than six months left on a contract. Why didn't BVB sue Bayern or why didn't they punish Lewa at least by sending him to the stands every game, letting him train with the juniors.

 

[Andresito]

In the past I hated Bayern because of that, but nowadays I hate the other BuLi clubs, because they are letting them get away with it. Why didn't BVB let Lewa rot on the bench for a whole year, why didn't Schalke do the same to Goretzka and Nubel. Its not only them, they did that with every 'rival' they had in the league.

All those clubs are their bitches, and they deserve to watch Bayern win the title each year. I mean it was known that Lewa will sign for Bayern on a free, more than a year before it happened, while the rule is that you can't talk to a player if he has more than six months left on a contract. Why didn't BVB sue Bayern or why didn't they punish Lewa at least by sending him to the stands every game, letting him train with the juniors.

Well it's easy to say.
But the truth is the clubs pay these players very high wages. There's a difference between Schalke/Goretzka, Dortmund/Lewa compared to for example PSG/Rabiot.

In the German cases we're talking about the best player of the team and probably top 3 most paid in the club. It would be stupid to send them to the reserves when they can be the difference between missing out on a spot in Europe for Schalke or even contending for the title with Dortmund.

PSG had no problem doing so with Rabiot because he was just another squad member.

 

[Messi983]

He will extend fir another year
https://www.bavarianfootballworks.c...rench-transfer-contract-extension-summer-2020

I think he'll still go to Bayern. I could see him renewing and then RBL and BM negotiate a future transfer for 2021. Something similar they did with Liverpool for Naby Keita. RBL keeps him for another season and still get 60m (or whatever fee they'll agree) instead of letting him go for free and Bayern buys him next year when their finances will be better (not that they couldn't buy him now if they really want but I think they'll be financially responsible under these circumstances - more than us anyway).

I hope I'm wrong though and they'll keep Upamecano without agreeing to a future transfer so we can still get him in 2021.

At this point I've totaly given up on getting a good CB and DM/CM (which should be a priority over a forward imo) this year because we'll waste our time and money on Lautaro and Neymar.

Just bring back Todibo. Pique, Lenglet, Todibo and Umtiti (if we get a bid of more than 25m sell him and promote Araujo; don't see it happening though) are far from ideal but I'd prefer those four for another season than spending money on someone not good enough. There are still other talented young CBs whom we could get for cheap but I don't trust Abidal to get the right one. Let's hope I'm wrong and he'll surprise us.

For midfield sell Raki and/or Vidal and return Alena from loan. Possibly Collado can get minutes as well though I'd prefer him going on loan to play regular top division football. Maybe even keep Coutinho though I'd prefer him sold (to free up his wages which we'll need to do if we'll bring another big earner in Lautaro/Neymar) as I don't think he's really a fit here because his best position is already occupied by Messi. Still better keeping him than wasting money on someone like Ndombele or even worse Pjanić though.

We'll be bad next year anyway if we'll prefer to use our (limited) resources on another 100m forward instead of improving defense and midfield but at least this way we wouldn't bring more average players we'll look to get rid off desperately in a year or two. Better save money and go for top targets like Upamecano (if my hopeful scenario will realize) and Haaland next year. Maybe even Camavinga since there are rumours now that Rennes won't sell him at all if they'll qualify for the CL (they are currently 3rd on the table and Ligue 1 is canceled so we'll see how they'll decide). They'll surely lose a lot of money due to coronavirus but Camavinga's value can go even higher if he'll play well in the CL so I could still see Rennes keeping him. I'm 95% he'll go to RM though and we'll regret not signing him for the next decade.

 

[LABarcaFan]

In the past I hated Bayern because of that, but nowadays I hate the other BuLi clubs, because they are letting them get away with it. Why didn't BVB let Lewa rot on the bench for a whole year, why didn't Schalke do the same to Goretzka and Nubel. Its not only them, they did that with every 'rival' they had in the league.

All those clubs are their bitches, and they deserve to watch Bayern win the title each year. I mean it was known that Lewa will sign for Bayern on a free, more than a year before it happened, while the rule is that you can't talk to a player if he has more than six months left on a contract. Why didn't BVB sue Bayern or why didn't they punish Lewa at least by sending him to the stands every game, letting him train with the juniors.

Very good points my friend. Unfortunately the Bundesliga is working the same way since 1974, when Bayern had the greatest ever squad which won the CL. The problem is in the German Football Federation for not banning Bayern for doing this. Basically, all other clubs in Germany are nothing more than incubators for the Bavarian club, that is why the Bundesliga is not attractive destination for players from other leagues. It's one horse competition.

 

[MTL_Barca]

Bayern isn't any better or worse than other clubs, if anything it's just smarter. Bayern likes to approach players with contracts ending soon while Barca often goes for the ones with 5 years left and then needs them to pressure their club, then you'll have other clubs focusing on stealing youth players by offering huge amounts of cash, then there are shady deals with agents, clubs trying to cheat FFP etc. Football business isn't transparent or fair in any way, just different approaches but moral is long gone.

Also latest news were Bayern would like to sign him this summer (just not pay the clause, understandably) and others reporting he might even renew for another year.